m3vert Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 So this loonie ethical vegan is trying to take his former employer the League Against Cruel Sports to a tribunal saying he was sacked after highlighting that LACS invest their pension fund in companies who allow animal testing!! Brilliant, good to see yet another animal rights outfit only paying lip service to what they say they believe in!! Its all about the money!! You can't shoot foxes but you can sure as hell blind a monkey with mascara if it keeps our pension making money https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46385597 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just heard of this on the BBC, a worker was sacked for raising the point. Wonderful double standards from the anties! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoozer Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) Edited December 3, 2018 by Snoozer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del.gue Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 56 minutes ago, m3vert said: So this loonie ethical vegan is trying to take his former employer the League Against Cruel Sports to a tribunal saying he was sacked after highlighting that LACS invest their pension fund in companies who allow animal testing!! Brilliant, good to see yet another animal rights outfit only paying lip service to what they say they believe in!! Its all about the money!! You can't shoot foxes but you can sure as hell blind a monkey with mascara if it keeps our pension making money https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46385597 I agree with you...but this door knob is trying to get veganism on the same footing as racial and religious discrimination, so you cant interfere with their beliefs...but it seems ok for the radical veggies to interfere with our beliefs! Oh the hypocrisy is deafening!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3vert Posted December 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 37 minutes ago, del.gue said: I agree with you...but this door knob is trying to get veganism on the same footing as racial and religious discrimination, so you cant interfere with their beliefs...but it seems ok for the radical veggies to interfere with our beliefs! Oh the hypocrisy is deafening!! I know and I hope common sense prevails (doubtful). The only thing that might save the day is if LACS can easily demonstrate he was sacked for gross misconduct that had nothing to do with this case, that way there wont be a tribunal even held. I just love the fact they have been ousted by one of their own as hypocrites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 When I used to communicate regularly with LACS some years ago, I raised the point regarding ‘it’s all about the money’ when one of their senior colleagues was sacked and prosecuted for thieving from the coffers......everything went a bit quiet! 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 hours ago, m3vert said: So this loonie ethical vegan is trying to take his former employer the League Against Cruel Sports to a tribunal saying he was sacked after highlighting that LACS invest their pension fund in companies who allow animal testing!! Brilliant, good to see yet another animal rights outfit only paying lip service to what they say they believe in!! Its all about the money!! You can't shoot foxes but you can sure as hell blind a monkey with mascara if it keeps our pension making money https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46385597 Why on earth would a Monkey be wearing Mascara- surely a little bit of lip gloss would make them far more attractive? Or have I once again missed the point..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 It means nothing unfortunately until we discover what reason LACS actually claim they sacked him for....'gross misconduct' covers a wide variety of reasons. They may struggle unless they can convince a tribunal otherwise. I hope they have a strong case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Is whistleblowing a sackable offence? Surely a so called "ethical" charity should value and support an employee who exposes "unethical" conduct within the organisation, not sack em? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Jaymo said: Why on earth would a Monkey be wearing Mascara- surely a little bit of lip gloss would make them far more attractive? Whatever turns you on Jay 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 29 minutes ago, panoma1 said: Is whistleblowing a sackable offence? Surely a so called "ethical" charity should value and support an employee who exposes "unethical" conduct within the organisation, not sack em? 🤔 Is whistleblowing the reason he was sacked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouser Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Maybe it was a fox whistle . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Scully said: Is whistleblowing the reason he was sacked? According to the link above he claims he was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, amateur said: Whatever turns you on Jay 😄 U know I’m not that fussy after a long trip away ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, panoma1 said: According to the link above he claims he was! And no one has EVER made fraudulent claims about the reason why they were asked to leave... Which looks better to a future employer: 'oh I was asked to leave for standing by my principals' or 'yeah I was sacked for gross misconduct'? Fortunately most tribunals are able to see through the odd smokescreen and if LACS have got the evidence, this chap's going to be made to look very, very foolish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 29 minutes ago, Jaymo said: U know I’m not that fussy after a long trip away ..... I do hope that your missus doesn't read your posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 41 minutes ago, panoma1 said: According to the link above he claims he was! His employers are claiming it was 'gross misconduct'. Is whistleblowing gross misconduct? 38 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: And no one has EVER made fraudulent claims about the reason why they were asked to leave... Which looks better to a future employer: 'oh I was asked to leave for standing by my principals' or 'yeah I was sacked for gross misconduct'? Fortunately most tribunals are able to see through the odd smokescreen and if LACS have got the evidence, this chap's going to be made to look very, very foolish I do hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 hours ago, del.gue said: this door knob is trying to get veganism on the same footing as racial and religious discrimination If veganism is a philosophical belief equally so is omniviorism or carnivorism, or even Vegitarianism - it is lifestyle choice. Therefore to apply it to one it must be applied to all equally. That would kybosh them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, amateur said: I do hope that your missus doesn't read your posts Nope, she is too busy trying out new mascara 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 24 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: If veganism is a philosophical belief equally so is omniviorism or carnivorism, or even Vegitarianism - it is lifestyle choice. Therefore to apply it to one it must be applied to all equally. That would kybosh them. Good point. This way they would cancel each other out. I can see a time when meat eaters are marginalised as are vegans now, even as a majority, due to the claims of the new religion of climate change. Veganism has never been frowned upon, they're simply regarded as oddballs, but meat eating will be frowned upon for the reasons given. Already it has been seriously suggested by this new religion that people eat less meat and that farmers grow more trees and less meat, or farmers are taxed for the emissions of their stock. It would be hilarious if those suggesting it weren't deadly serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Scully said: His employers are claiming it was 'gross misconduct'. Is whistleblowing gross misconduct? That's why I was asking "is whistleblowing a sackable offence?" In an earlier post! He claims he was sacked for whistleblowing and his dismissal was discriminatory because he is something called an "ethical vegan" which he is claiming is unlawful on the grounds of his religion or beliefs! lm sure the Industrial Tribunal will sort it out....if it gets that far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, Scully said: Good point. This way they would cancel each other out. I can see a time when meat eaters are marginalised as are vegans now, even as a majority, due to the claims of the new religion of climate change. Veganism has never been frowned upon, they're simply regarded as oddballs, but meat eating will be frowned upon for the reasons given. Already it has been seriously suggested by this new religion that people eat less meat and that farmers grow more trees and less meat, or farmers are taxed for the emissions of their stock. It would be hilarious if those suggesting it weren't deadly serious. If the loon wins his case could country sports/fieldsports/shooting/hunting also be a religion or belief? Perhaps our shooting organisations could test that in a court of law too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, panoma1 said: If the loon wins his case could country sports/fieldsports/shooting/hunting also be a religion or belief? Perhaps our shooting organisations could test that in a court of law too? It's far deeper than that, hunting is a fundamental part of the human conditional, part of our heritage, our history, our success as a species, a key moment in our evolution. It's innate. I'd go as far to say a human right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) I usually go by the idea I've seen more battles lost than I have seen battles won and hope for a compromise. However in a case of the LACS vs radical Vegan maybe we should hope for a drawn out battle of attrition the like of which has not seen since Hitler went into Russia. Edited December 3, 2018 by Dibble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Quote lm sure the Industrial Tribunal will sort it out....if it gets that far? It will be settled by Barristers, in the corridor outside the court - with confidentiality agreement signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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