Scully Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Am warming to the appearance of these, especially the K80 Parcour, but as above, are they worth it and where can I try one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 They aren't worth it to me and I'll never warm to the looks, but on the registered sporting clays circuit the K80 variants are very popular. The Parcours has got them established into a market segment previously dominated by Italian guns. There's a very nice Parcours for sale over on ShootClay. I've seen the gun personally and know the owner well enough to know that it's well cared for and in very good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Will it make you a better shot, or kill stuff that less expensive guns won't ... I doubt it. One chap I know has twice bought one thinking it'll get him from AA to AAA ... and both times regretted it and gone back to something different. Will it give you a warm fuzzy feeling of owning an object of desire every time you open the cabinet ... only you'll know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 They are very nice, but will not make you shoot any better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotgcoalman Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Imagine the Baikals you could buy with the money 🤔 100's One of them is bound to fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Are they worth the asking price (that happens to be 3-4 times that of other guns that are just as well made, provably more reliable with the same if not superior features and which have proved beyond a shadow of doubt will score near if not actual maximum possible at ESP) and be easier to resell and retain a greater % of their cost price ? No of course not. Would I buy one ? Absolutely, if I truly had £10-£15k spare which I couldn't more wisely spend on owning at least half a dozen other awesome guns such as say an FX Impact (now that's engineering before anyone starts on about the katie) I wouldn't hesitate in buying a krieghoff. The trouble with these guns isn't that they're anything other than superb, the trouble is their price tag is a load of old nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creedmoor Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 The second biggest downside ( apart from the ridiculous price for what is nothing more that a pimped up Remington) having NO choice but to deal with Alan Rhône , for everything. I have had two over the years , would I have another ? Not on your nelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 They are worth every penny when you compare them to the competition. They swing well soak up recoil have nice trigger pulls and when you fit it too you they work very well. My scores went up ten percent with mine. Due to a lower back injury I rarely use it now. Mine is a K80 Super Sport Titanium with parcours shape adjustable stock rather than the trap style Monte Carlo. I keep.hanging onto mine using it occasionally hoping my back improves but I think I'll move it on in the new year. Try one scully it's the only way to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 A lot of money..... Comparison ...I shoot a 30 inch barreled ejector Yilditz 410 standard model ...around £750. At the Shooting Show in February I had a look at a very nicely engraved version of basically the same gun .. £2000. Do you think I would shoot any better with that than the one I have I said to the salesman.....no reply. Of course I wouldn't. If the gun suits you , fits you, gives you confidence AND you can afford it, then buy it. Simple as that. My little Yilditz is just an extension of my body, I hold my own in the pheasant line and more importantly I enjoy shooting it. The price of a Kreighoff will basically buy me four seasons shooting.....much better value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Sadly I LL never know...way outta my league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Very nice guns but not "worth" the asking, i have had 3 and enjoyed them all. A friend recently bought one for a substantial sum, while having a go i noted to myself it just didnt feel the money. Buy wisely a nearly new to save a fortune and you money will be fairly well protected. Nice to shoot, well made and engineered good back up in my experience but not value in any form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, gotgcoalman said: Imagine the Baikals you could buy with the money 🤔 100's One of them is bound to fit 👍 1 hour ago, Creedmoor said: The second biggest downside ( apart from the ridiculous price for what is nothing more that a pimped up Remington) having NO choice but to deal with Alan Rhône , for everything. I have had two over the years , would I have another ? Not on your nelly. If I'm totally honest I do much prefer the looks of the 3200, but can't find too much info' on them as they're a much older gun. Some say the models with such and such a screw should be avoided and I can never seem to discover exactly which model is being referred to. Anyhow, I'd very much like to try a Krieghoff, whether I could afford one is another matter. I buy guns mostly on the merits of their looks and have never given any thought to whether it will make me a better shot or not, hence my short lived dalliances with a couple of Berettas. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Scully if your ever over the other side of the 66 give me a shout and you can try mine. As long as I have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, figgy said: Scully if your ever over the other side of the 66 give me a shout and you can try mine. As long as I have it. That's a very kind offer figgy, much appreciated. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 I have had a shot of a fair few K guns now, both K-80s and Parcours. The Parcours that I have tried bash me in the face, despite the sight picture being very similar to my own gun so they feel good until I pull the trigger. The K-80s i have shot i find to be better suited to me, but they are fugly. Would I buy one? No, but only because they don't float my boat. If I was given one for nothing would I shoot it? Nope, i'd sell it and buy something else and pocket a wodge of cash. Would I spring £15k on a gun? In a heartbeat if I had the cash and it made me smile whenever I picked it up, a K gun (so far) simply does not do that for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perazzishot Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Very similar to grrclark above with the K gun. Very tempted in the new year to go back to a pair of Perazzi MX2000 if I can find the right deal against what I have currently. Did regret trading in my last Perazzi. The price for 2 would be in the same ball park as the K gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Shot a fair few like the shoot of them looks not so much. 15k I feel is too high and will stick with my Kemen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) I think that they are possibly a little overpriced Edited December 13, 2018 by Salopian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzypigeon Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 If you can try a couple, I found it took me a while to get used to the extra effort required to get the gun moving on closer targets. I’m tempted by a parcours but I find that I enjoy my game shooting a lot with this gun....not the prettiest thing you can buy but it works for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Mate in the US has a K80 San Remo - Lovely to shoot and look at (aside from a really high rib - Really, really high rib!!) and very good swing on it. Bit heavy for anything other than clays though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 Popped down to Malmo yesterday😀👍.....will update later, off beating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 Think of the car you could get for £10-15k and think of the ‘engineering’ and raw materials that go into that car. You have to ask yourself where does the money go? Those ubiquitous stickers that go with every gun must be really expensive to make 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 After the discussion on here, and especially about the 3200, I realised it had been a while since I'd browsed the 3200 on GT, so had a gander. There were the usual ones which had been on for some time which were either in the wrong configuration ( I don't fancy a skeet model, although there is a very nice cased example ) or older models which I doubt have been 'updated'. Apparently some of the older models have been susceptible to indeterminate niggles, and after a little digging ( much easier than I thought ) I found that the most desirable specimens were those with one pin at the rear of the receiver face, with a dot in the middle of the serial number and with a wreath surrounding the dog as engraving. Lo and behold, I discovered what looked to be a very nice Super Trap with a single pin and a wreath surrounding the dog on the receiver, so a quick call to Malmo first thing to check they still had it, and ask if they could put it to one side 'til I got there, and off I went via the picture framers. I will post some pictures some time over the weekend, but this gun is in wonderful condition. It isn't quite mint as a previous owner has allowed the fore end metal work to get slightly pitted at one end for some strange reason ( it could have been blood on his hands ) but I can have that rectified, but apart from that it is in fabulous condition. The bluing is wonderful and the woodwork under that deep varnish very nicely grained. The original butt pad still has dimples on it! To say I was excited is an understatement! It is a gun I've coveted for a long time, but to find one which has had such little use as this was something I never thought I'd find. It has 30" floating barrels choked at full and full and I can't wait to get out with it. OH says I've been walking around with a stupid grin on my face since we got back. 😀 Anyone want to buy a Grand European? 🙂Seriously; I need the space. As an aside, there is a beautiful Perazzi MX2 in the rack too. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 13/12/2018 at 13:12, welshwarrior said: Shot a fair few like the shoot of them looks not so much. 15k I feel is too high and will stick with my Kemen Kemen are lovely. KM4 welshwarrior ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, Whitebridges said: Kemen are lovely. KM4 welshwarrior ? Yes a KM4 just off for engraving as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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