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If you think your 4x4 is capable in snow with standard tyres you will be surprised just watch this video I run veiderstien full winter tyres all year round on the tiguan 4x4 as i cant be bothered to keep swapping them about another set of rims is the best option 

https://youtu.be/mfuE00qdhLA

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Just seen this post (a bit late!) I've been an advocate of winter tyres for years, and the its all in the name. They are not just for snow, they offer superior traction to hard compound tyres when the temperature drops below 7 degrees centigrade-pretty common in the uk after September/october. Living on Exmoor we get our fair share of the white stuff, but far more common is white frost and good old ice-winter tyres are extremely common here on 4x4's and cars. Even on a wet winter road if its below 7 degrees you get better traction and shorter braking distances.

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On 14/12/2018 at 20:18, Adrian Armsby said:

A couple of years ago I was hedge planting across 4 stubble fields there was about 3inch of white stuff about ,but at the time my 4x4 was in for a service so had to take the transit van to do the job, yes it does have good aggressive tyres on front only and run of mill on back , anyway the land owner came walking over the fields to me and asked if I was able to help get her vehicle out of the first field as she had got it stuck,  I said what you've got a 70k range rover stuck on a stubble field, when I finally stopped laughing she got in the van and we went back to it , I got in the rover into gear and drove it off the field for her , so in other words, there are drivers and screw driver's , when all said just drive to the conditions of the road , simple, 

100%   Chelsea Tractor drivers and some others with 4x4s believe they will stop as well as they go....not true.  I followed a brand spanking new Disco across a muddy field and up a moderate incline, wet soft grass.  I waited for it to stop gyrating and eventualy making it to the top and then followed up with my LR90 in second gear almost on tick over and only once did she slide into a rut.  My tyres are proper off road jobs, the Disco was on large diameter wheels and very low profile tyres but with all the technology it struggled.  Going down the next slope they where all over the place brake lights on. I just put it in 1st gear and kept my feet off ALL the pedals.  Just gently let it come down on the engine.  When we first had Range Rovers as patrol cars one or two got rolled because they gave the impression they could do anything, when they rolled they seriously flipped.

 

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2 hours ago, Walker570 said:

100%   Chelsea Tractor drivers and some others with 4x4s believe they will stop as well as they go....not true.  I followed a brand spanking new Disco across a muddy field and up a moderate incline, wet soft grass.  I waited for it to stop gyrating and eventualy making it to the top and then followed up with my LR90 in second gear almost on tick over and only once did she slide into a rut.  My tyres are proper off road jobs, the Disco was on large diameter wheels and very low profile tyres but with all the technology it struggled.  Going down the next slope they where all over the place brake lights on. I just put it in 1st gear and kept my feet off ALL the pedals.  Just gently let it come down on the engine.  When we first had Range Rovers as patrol cars one or two got rolled because they gave the impression they could do anything, when they rolled they seriously flipped.

 

Disco has hill descent control so should be great on those surfaces even with slicks. I would bet my wife's (disco sport) would do well on super slippery stuff as it has all of the electronic wizardry so can be a true fwd with effective diff locks. 

My Hilux has mud terrains and whilst they are great in mud and fresh snow on anything compact and slippery, its like bambi on ice. 

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I was not denigrating the vehicle so much as the driver.  It appeared he was overiding the wizardry with his right foot.

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Just put two new Grabber AT3’s on the front of my D-max. The rear two have 6mm tread still after 25000 miles. They give good off road grip and are good on tarmac. The important thing about off road is to select the gear and drive you need before you need it. Like driving an old tractor.

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Not specifically designed for snow but my All4 Mini was brilliant on Goodyear all weather tyres during last years snowy weather. A neighbour with RR Evoke couldn't understand why I was mobile and she wasn't. 200bhp and good tyres made for a bit of fun on back roads. It felt a bit like rallying. Also noticed in heavy rain massive spray in rear view  - never seen or noticed this before - suggesting the tyres are general poor weather boots. They came with the car from new but I would definitely do same for same when it's time to replace.

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Strangely enough I am going over to Bridgestone  weather control tyres next on both our cars, I have had enough of lighty treaded summer tyres for a while.  I would think though that the spray you have seen is the tyres doing what they are supposed to do as they let  the water travel under the tyre through the tread  and outwards to the rear instead of out sideways in front of the tyre...just my thought 😊.

cheers

MM

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I work with an ex-Lotus engineer who has travelled the world doing engineering design/development on any and everything on wheels and  he has seen massive developments in tyre technology and highly recommends using not just top quality boots but also specialist fitters. These 'specialists' are not always the big guys either!!

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1 hour ago, norfolk dumpling said:

I work with an ex-Lotus engineer who has travelled the world doing engineering design/development on any and everything on wheels and  he has seen massive developments in tyre technology and highly recommends using not just top quality boots but also specialist fitters. These 'specialists' are not always the big guys either!!

What's a specialist fitter ? 

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I agree with a lots of the above. My Defenders had BFG AT tyres when I changed over to Cooper AT3 it was quite a transformation for the better!

My Freelander 2 had Michelin Lattitude Cross tyres that went everywhere summer or winter

Our new car is a Kodiaq 4x4 that has Hankook Evo SUV tyres that are very good in the wet/dry and seem very good in muddy tracks so far despite the less than chunky tread. Only had it 3 months so not had a chance to try it out in snow yet but I think it will need All Weathers on it ...... it has 19 inch wheels and ATs are not easy to find .

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Cooper mud and snow on my Tourag, great off road but need low pressures on road to have a chance of stoping in snow, ice, heavy water

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On 14/12/2018 at 18:29, Adrian Armsby said:

Not seen proper snow for about 20 years , what country do you lot live in 

Funniest post ive seen in a long time :good:

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Just jumping on the band wagon here .

I have a knaker of a citroen berlingo 02 plate 1.6 petrol with 4 of the most agressive mud an snow tyers i could find .if any of seen the track on my permission u would call me a lier but the bloody thing gets up there evry week and in the snow i had to do some forwards n back manouvers and take a run up at one point (and give the little car death) but it just seems to keep going .i have a genuine hate for 2 wd cars even more french ones but becuase of the motorway miles i do now i had to swap out the landy for something that fits the kids in and the shoping and then the fortnightly trip to see the olds 240 mile round trip im begining to like the berlingo .

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