Shadowchaser Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 (edited) I caught the opening of a repeat episode of Doc Martin earlier today and was bewildered as to the handling of a shotgun in the opening minutes. Doc's Aunt Joan had called him over to look at her ankle. A friend(?) of hers some retired Colonel walked in with a closed side by side and waved it around (probably for comic effect). The Doc asked if it was loaded to which the reply was no and the man propped it up still closed next to the table. Later the Doc grabs his bag and knocks the gun over, shooting Joan in the leg. He then takes the gun still closed back to the surgery. I didn't mind scenes like this before I started shooting but now they do annoy me. The script writers could've easily had a bit thrown in which someone tells the man to break the gun and not lean it up. I'm sure things like this seen by millions of people give shooting and firearms a hard time. Have you seen any examples of bad gun handling on tele? Edited December 25, 2018 by Shadowchaser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 If he had behaved like any normal shooter - there would have been no episode. The writers treat viewers as gullible idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord v Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 Bad guy approaches good guy 1 on horse back and draws a closed SxS from holster. Good guy 2 ambushes, throwing bad guy 1 and taking gun in process. Clear sound of a pump racking as gun is trained on bad guy now prone in dirt. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 Some terrible gun handling in the first 10 minutes of saving private Ryan. It's amazing no one was killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, Gordon R said: If he had behaved like any normal shooter - there would have been no episode. The writers treat viewers as gullible idiots. Well, they are aren't they ? Certainly from the garbage I occasionally see on friends TVs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, bornfree said: Some terrible gun handling in the first 10 minutes of saving private Ryan. It's amazing no one was killed. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, bornfree said: Some terrible gun handling in the first 10 minutes of saving private Ryan. It's amazing no one was killed. 😂 class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 If I've got the right film Heat has amazing gun handling, the scene with Val Kilmer is supposed to be text book perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 Its telly. Sorry to have to be the one to spoil your year. Even the news is half pork pies so please don't think that a series written for the entertainment of the masses is all true to fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redial Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 Stick to the Westerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 I'm not defending such a stupid and improbable story line but I've come across a few game shooters with atrocious gun discipline, some which I've seen at close range, including at clay shoots. And I know of a couple of accidents on game shoots, fortunately minor ones that only damaged clothing, that were never spoken of to anyone outside of those present until much later. My guess is accidental discharges happen fairly often on game shoots and it's just a matter of time before something really bad happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol p Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 The cop on tv during the drone debacle, wandering around an auto loader with a pistol grip. Mooching around with it one handed, uniform in bad order, not a good example to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 If it bothers you that much telly has a off switch too much **** on it anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonker Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 I think you're all taking a made for tv comedy series waaaay to seriously, You'll be telling me Die hard or Mission impossible was true life next lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, tonker said: I think you're all taking a made for tv comedy series waaaay to seriously, You'll be telling me Die hard or Mission impossible was true life next lol. If Bruce has taken more care he wouldn’t have shot any of those terrorists! Negligent discharge of that MP5 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 59 minutes ago, Westward said: My guess is accidental discharges happen fairly often on game shoots and it's just a matter of time before something really bad happens. I have been on game shoots for over 40 years. Accidental discharges are very rare. I have never personally encountered one, but have heard of very occasional ones. I have however encountered some bad 'intentional' discharges - which may be what you mean. On the other hand, I have encountered at several on clays shoots ......... none of which fortunately caused anything greater than embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Westward said: I'm not defending such a stupid and improbable story line but I've come across a few game shooters with atrocious gun discipline, some which I've seen at close range, including at clay shoots. And I know of a couple of accidents on game shoots, fortunately minor ones that only damaged clothing, that were never spoken of to anyone outside of those present until much later. My guess is accidental discharges happen fairly often on game shoots and it's just a matter of time before something really bad happens. I've been racking my brain trying to think of one I'd witnessed or even heard of locally, but I can only think of one, of the latter category, and that was a fatality. I'm assuming it IS only a guess that they 'happen fairly often on game shoots' as I've never seen one in all the years I've been shooting, nor the shoots I've been on, and I've been on quite a few, both clay and game. I've no doubt it does happen, but I'm also in no doubt as to the excellent safety record shooting sports or disciplines have when in comparison to others. I know of many more accidents involving horses and riders locally however, all of which involved hospital treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 Ooooh, I don't know, Del Boy didn't do too bad!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, wymberley said: Ooooh, I don't know, Del Boy didn't do too bad!. That clip is hilarious.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decoy1979 Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 20 hours ago, Shadowchaser said: I caught the opening of a repeat episode of Doc Martin earlier today and was bewildered as to the handling of a shotgun in the opening minutes. Doc's Aunt Joan had called him over to look at her ankle. A friend(?) of hers some retired Colonel walked in with a closed side by side and waved it around (probably for comic effect). The Doc asked if it was loaded to which the reply was no and the man propped it up still closed next to the table. Later the Doc grabs his bag and knocks the gun over, shooting Joan in the leg. He then takes the gun still closed back to the surgery. I didn't mind scenes like this before I started shooting but now they do annoy me. The script writers could've easily had a bit thrown in which someone tells the man to break the gun and not lean it up. I'm sure things like this seen by millions of people give shooting and firearms a hard time. Have you seen any examples of bad gun handling on tele? That's tv for you! I found the lack of attention to detail more annoying as the gun in question looked like either a 20 or 28 gauge and the colonel was carrying a box of .410 cartridges that he placed on the kitchen table. But I've got over it now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Scully said: I've been racking my brain trying to think of one I'd witnessed or even heard of locally, but I can only think of one, of the latter category, and that was a fatality. I'm assuming it IS only a guess that they 'happen fairly often on game shoots' as I've never seen one in all the years I've been shooting, nor the shoots I've been on, and I've been on quite a few, both clay and game. I've no doubt it does happen, but I'm also in no doubt as to the excellent safety record shooting sports or disciplines have when in comparison to others. I know of many more accidents involving horses and riders locally however, all of which involved hospital treatment. Rather than negligent discharges, probably the more common issue is guns shooting too low as someone has said. I have only ever heard of someone being hit but never seen it. Apparently the beater is currently sueing the gun as the shot was very low and blatantly unsafe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Scully said: the excellent safety record shooting sports or disciplines have when in comparison to others. This is reflected in the (relatively) low premiums for insurance for shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted December 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 hour ago, decoy1979 said: That's tv for you! I found the lack of attention to detail more annoying as the gun in question looked like either a 20 or 28 gauge and the colonel was carrying a box of .410 cartridges that he placed on the kitchen table. But I've got over it now.. I didn't notice the .410 shells, oh well. Of course I actually enjoy Doc Martin and know that it's made for tv fluff, but even so I like things to have a basis in logic. Surely they can employ people who can check on these things. It's like the whole Routemaster bus thing in Foyles War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Shadowchaser said: ........ It's like the whole Routemaster bus thing in Foyles War. Or motorcycles on any programme. Any subject that you have any knowledge of, TV or films will mangle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_seagrave Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 Don’t get me started on the courts - A High Court Judge wearing a civil robe in the Old Bailey? (Sherlock) A High Court Judge being referred to as “your honour” by Counsel? (IT Crowd) And that’s just the stuff we choose on Netflix - Gawd knows what I’d be like if we ever reinstated the TV Another vote for the “off” switch, lads! LS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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