islandgun Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 I wondered what you would choose for this type of shooting, 5 mile walk over moorland, peat bogs, burns, low cliffs, long heather and grass. Quarry woodcock, snipe, grouse, golden plover.. just me and spaniel.. only criteria is light weight........ budget up to £1000 approx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 410 or 28 bore 21g no 7 or 7.5. Yildiz sbs or khan (revo) K226 both with multichoke Edited January 1, 2019 by Stonepark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 Greener GP is what I carried over the Dallas grouse moors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 Lightweight 12g s/s firing 1oz of 6.5. An Alex Martin perhaps given your locale !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 me an my mates choice is o/u 20g i a have a lanber mc 28in weight 6lbs 2oz his silver pigeon 30in,weight about the same give or take an oz or two,carts anything from 21gram to 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 Agree I use a 20 bore for any walked up shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, matone said: Lightweight 12g s/s firing 1oz of 6.5. An Alex Martin perhaps given your locale !!!! This^ ..........but maybe 7's? I use a 1937, William Powell best 12, SxS BLE.....walked up Grouse on the high moor, Ptarmigan on the high tops! Never found it a burden! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 You dont need an ejector for the type of shooting you describe and a SBS is more comfortable to carry on a long walk as againts an O/U. An AYA No 3 in tip top condition will be well within your budget. There is nowadays a vast choice of 20 bore cartridges on the market, so an AYA or even an English 20 bore non-ejector would be within your budget. Most older English 20s will have 2.5in. chambers so I personally would opt for an AYA with its 2.75in chambers. Plenty on the market and a great spares back up in the unlikely event a spring or striker breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 Get yourself a 2”... 20b action 12b barrels https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/shotguns/lewis-jw/side-by-side/12-gauge/boxlock-ejector-180814101439006 Love mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, WelshAndy said: Get yourself a 2”... 20b action 12b barrels https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/shotguns/lewis-jw/side-by-side/12-gauge/boxlock-ejector-180814101439006 Love mine! They are indeed things of beauty the little 12`s ! Who made yours ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 great stuff cheers..liking small bores and sxs.. anyone for S/A... non posh would be good as would non ejector. Ive only ever managed to get one shot off, but you never know.. looked at 28's as in second hand Rizzini BR110 approx £850. Benelli Raffaello 28 [very light] also Kofs 20/28 Andy does that Lewis really weigh in 5lb 6oz ! looks nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 Interestingly I never feel the weight of my gun as I am so used to carrying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, matone said: They are indeed things of beauty the little 12`s ! Who made yours ? Skimmin and Wood - was my grandfathers. 2 minutes ago, islandgun said: Andy does that Lewis really weigh in 5lb 6oz ! looks nice That’s what it says. Mine is light, lovely to carry on walked up days. Cartridges I have are Eley no6 26.5grms. Have you a visit to wales planned soon? Come over and say hey if you have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, WelshAndy said: Skimmin and Wood - was my grandfathers. That’s what it says. Mine is light, lovely to carry on walked up days. Cartridges I have are Eley no6 26.5grms. Have you a visit to wales planned soon? Come over and say hey if you have Hi Andy nothing planned at the moment but will give you a bell when i do.... cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) hello, there is not much difference in weight to a O/U 20 bore than a light weight 12 bore such as the browning 525 light alloy side plate model, not sure anyone will agree but i all ways found a side by side better to carry so my thought is a AYA XXV boxlock in 12 bore around 6llb, or if you prefer an O/U try a Yildiz 20 bore non ejector but what ever you decide enjoy you days out Edited January 1, 2019 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 I have used a 12 bore 2 1/2" S x S by Westley Richards since 1970's. I have tried all sorts of different guns, for just about all of my shooting, but the Westley weighs in at 6lbs 2ozs. so if any walking is involved it is my first choice of gun. The S x S carries over the arm far better than ANY O/U. The semi auto, well the ONLY comfortable way to carry them is in a gunslip. (or a vehicle) I have walked for miles over moorland after grouse and blackcock and even capers (when we could shoot them) and although even a 6lbs gun will leave a bruise on your forearm after a day on the moors, it is still the most comfortable of guns to carry. If you are expecting to get a shot, the barrels can rest on your shoulder with the muzzles pointing skywards for long distances. I was shooting driven game yesterday and have a bruise on my right shoulder from my 7lbs 20 bore and THAT was when standing on a peg ! The Westley has shot some of the highest birds on various shoots around the Country and the highest load has been 32 gram 5's, with no excessive recoil (because it fits me). For walked up stuff, 28 grams of 6 or 7 shot worked well enough. An English boxlock ejector in excellent condition with it's case can be picked up for not much more money than a new Turkish gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Westley said: I have used a 12 bore 2 1/2" S x S by Westley Richards since 1970's. I have tried all sorts of different guns, for just about all of my shooting, but the Westley weighs in at 6lbs 2ozs. so if any walking is involved it is my first choice of gun. The S x S carries over the arm far better than ANY O/U. The semi auto, well the ONLY comfortable way to carry them is in a gunslip. (or a vehicle) I have walked for miles over moorland after grouse and blackcock and even capers (when we could shoot them) and although even a 6lbs gun will leave a bruise on your forearm after a day on the moors, it is still the most comfortable of guns to carry. If you are expecting to get a shot, the barrels can rest on your shoulder with the muzzles pointing skywards for long distances. I was shooting driven game yesterday and have a bruise on my right shoulder from my 7lbs 20 bore and THAT was when standing on a peg ! The Westley has shot some of the highest birds on various shoots around the Country and the highest load has been 32 gram 5's, with no excessive recoil (because it fits me). For walked up stuff, 28 grams of 6 or 7 shot worked well enough. An English boxlock ejector in excellent condition with it's case can be picked up for not much more money than a new Turkish gun. Words of true wisdom there. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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islandgun Posted January 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 Thanks for all your replies WelshAndy'ies Lewis does look the part..😉... TBH ive never heard of 20 bore action with 12 bore barrels.. further study for me... cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 The gun in the link for sale isn’t mine bud, I just did a quick search with your said budget. Mine will never be sold.. They are a joy to shoot and a little bit different, always attracts attention. Pm me for any other info tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 I would carry a 12 bore semi auto with sling and a variety of carts. Nice and light thrown over your shoulder when not going to be shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 30 to 40yrs or more ago when I had a lot of shooting in the Welsh Hills I carried my Army & Navy 16 gauge side by side, today it would be my Yilditz 30 inch barreled 410. The fact that the cartridges are half the weight as well makes a big difference over 5 or 6 hrs walking those Welsh hillsides. Both would do the job equally well, be it woodcock over pointers , rabbits out of laid bracken in Feb/March, snipe any time and the occasional grouse. Llangattock, Aberedw, and that huge walk into the moor between Abergwesyn and the Elan Valley, sleapt well after those days. Edited January 1, 2019 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, WelshAndy said: The gun in the link for sale isn’t mine bud, I just did a quick search with your said budget. Mine will never be sold.. They are a joy to shoot and a little bit different, always attracts attention. Pm me for any other info tho Father had three - a Patstone, Hellis and Linsley. He used to load his own - a genuine 2" with a crimp closure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 29 minutes ago, WelshAndy said: The gun in the link for sale isn’t mine bud, I just did a quick search with your said budget. Mine will never be sold.. They are a joy to shoot and a little bit different, always attracts attention. Pm me for any other info tho Yes mate I keep looking at it on the website theres also a nice Tolly with 2 1/2 chambers a lot cheaper but a bit heavier I hear you Figgy..Walker 570 more food for thought.. Wymberley I see they found out what ails you... good luck.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, islandgun said: Yes mate I keep looking at it on the website theres also a nice Tolly with 2 1/2 chambers a lot cheaper but a bit heavier I hear you Figgy..Walker 570 more food for thought.. Wymberley I see they found out what ails you... good luck.. Many thanks, IG. The treatment has been nothing short of miraculous. Even pain which I've had to varying degrees for some 50 odd years has also gone. Just have to be a tad patient while the initial side effects of a bucket full of steroids wears off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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