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Beretta 682x trap

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    5 minutes ago, Timerider said:

    I don`t shoot clays, most of my shooting is at pigeons or crows, I`ve been using 1/4 and 1/4 for a while, but recently bought a Breda with 3/4 and full,  I still miss just as many  with the Breda as I did with the 1/4 1/4 😁 but the ones I do hit drop every time. I was told by a very successful shooter to get used to whatever I shot and enjoy!   which is good advice in my opinion 😊

    Yes, it is good advice indeed. I know someone who shoots skeet and skeet throughout the game season; he seems to do ok. 

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    Well I tried it on skeet and the best I could do was a 22 so 2 or 3 down on normal. Will have a go at sporting Sunday and if iam below average the reamers will be out.

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    1 hour ago, bornfree said:

    Well I tried it on skeet and the best I could do was a 22 so 2 or 3 down on normal. Will have a go at sporting Sunday and if iam below average the reamers will be out.

    So you’ve tried it on skeet once and because you’re ‘two or three’ down on normal you’re convinced it may need opening out?! It’s entirely your choice of course, but the logic of that comment doesn’t really make sense to me.  Do you never have an off day? What happens if you score two or three down on normal with your usual configuration? 

    In theory if anyone hits even just one of every pair called for, then it is entirely plausible that they should straight every stand. Of course there are oodles and oodles of all manner of vagaries which come into play to stop this from happening for most of us, but I genuinely doubt choke choice plays much part in any of them.

    Personally I’d just practise until I was back to normal, but each to their own. 

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    3 minutes ago, Scully said:

    So you’ve tried it on skeet once and because you’re ‘two or three’ down on normal you’re convinced it may need opening out?! It’s entirely your choice of course, but the logic of that comment doesn’t really make sense to me.  Do you never have an off day? What happens if you score two or three down on normal with your usual configuration? 

    In theory if anyone hits even just one of every pair called for, then it is entirely plausible that they should straight every stand. Of course there are oodles and oodles of all manner of vagaries which come into play to stop this from happening for most of us, but I genuinely doubt choke choice plays much part in any of them.

    Personally I’d just practise until I was back to normal, but each to their own. 

    It was 4 rounds. 22 . 21 . 21 and 22 which is not good. But iam trying it again Sunday at sporting

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    1 minute ago, bornfree said:

    It was 4 rounds. 22 . 21 . 21 and 22 which is not good. But iam trying it again Sunday at sporting

    But it’s very consistent scoring; just needs practise in my opinion. 

    If when next out Sporting I hit less than I did last time, it won’t even cross my mind to have my chokes opened up, but like I said, each to their own. Have fun. 👍

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    17 minutes ago, Scully said:

    So you’ve tried it on skeet once and because you’re ‘two or three’ down on normal you’re convinced it may need opening out?! It’s entirely your choice of course, but the logic of that comment doesn’t really make sense to me.  Do you never have an off day? What happens if you score two or three down on normal with your usual configuration? 

    In theory if anyone hits even just one of every pair called for, then it is entirely plausible that they should straight every stand. Of course there are oodles and oodles of all manner of vagaries which come into play to stop this from happening for most of us, but I genuinely doubt choke choice plays much part in any of them.

    Personally I’d just practise until I was back to normal, but each to their own. 

    Nor me. 👍 

     

    12 minutes ago, bornfree said:

    It was 4 rounds. 22 . 21 . 21 and 22 which is not good. But iam trying it again Sunday at sporting

    That's what I score on Skeet with a gun that I've used for 17 years and which has on occasion shot Skeet scores at ESP. 

    Opening the chokes will give you a bird or two and of that I have no doubt but are you seriously saying that you would typically shoot 98+ at Skeet with your regular gun ? Why on earth would you even consider changing guns if so. 😮

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    11 minutes ago, Hamster said:

    Nor me. 👍 

     

    That's what I score on Skeet with a gun that I've used for 17 years and which has on occasion shot Skeet scores at ESP. 

    Opening the chokes will give you a bird or two and of that I have no doubt but are you seriously saying that you would typically shoot 98+ at Skeet with your regular gun ? Why on earth would you even consider changing guns if so. 😮

    96 to 98 but that gets you nowhere at skeet. It just keeps you in AA. I've kept my regular gun. But sporting is my favourite discipline. 

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    11 minutes ago, bornfree said:

    96 to 98 but that gets you nowhere at skeet. It just keeps you in AA. I've kept my regular gun. But sporting is my favourite discipline. 

    Then shoot Sporting with your regular gun. 

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    8 hours ago, bornfree said:

    96 to 98 but that gets you nowhere at skeet. It just keeps you in AA. I've kept my regular gun. But sporting is my favourite discipline. 

    Skeet is dead on its feet anyway, round here I can only think of two places in the entire county that have the layout facility and even they mainly use it to throw Compak targets, you'd be lucky to be able to shoot 100 registered without waiting weeks for one to turn up. 

    96 is still extremely good going for Skeet, few can bang in straights and nobody does so without specialising in it, the real test for you and the gun is always going to be ESP. 

    Do us all a small favour and don't miss on purpose. 😜  😆

    ps. if you do miss a few I'll wager it'll have as much to do with unfamiliarity and that rib than it would do chokes. 

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    35 minutes ago, Hamster said:

    Skeet is dead on its feet anyway, round here I can only think of two places in the entire county that have the layout facility and even they mainly use it to throw Compak targets, you'd be lucky to be able to shoot 100 registered without waiting weeks for one to turn up. 

    96 is still extremely good going for Skeet, few can bang in straights and nobody does so without specialising in it, the real test for you and the gun is always going to be ESP. 

    Do us all a small favour and don't miss on purpose. 😜  😆

    ps. if you do miss a few I'll wager it'll have as much to do with unfamiliarity and that rib than it would do chokes. 

    the surprising thing was the breaks at skeet around half were smoked and the other were tiny chips off or the clay cracked in half.never expected that with 3/4 and full.

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    1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

    What made you by a 32" barrelled Trap gun rather than a Sporter?

    They are designed for particular disciplines.

    I shoot a Trap 682E for sporting, the comb is a touch higher so it helps me not lift my head (among other advantages), I firmly believe most off the peg sporters sold in this country are too low in the comb for most people. 

     

    1 hour ago, bornfree said:

    the surprising thing was the breaks at skeet around half were smoked and the other were tiny chips off or the clay cracked in half.never expected that with 3/4 and full.

    Doesn't surprise me one bit, through observation of breaks V chokes used by myself and others (including the famous) I have always said tight chokes chip more than their fair share of targets. The reasons are fairly obvious when you think about it, the centre of such hot patterns is rather small, not dissimilar to the size of most peoples talent and capability, hence a good few are broken with the poor outer edge of the cloud. 

    Half choke downwards tends to reverse the phenomenon, these just happen to have a rather handy outer edge so they'll often give the impression of hard hits even when the target hasn't in reality been centred. Once you begin to extend the range then open chokes such as 1/4 begin to show that neither the edge nor the centre has anything left to give hence poor breaks are the norm. 

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    2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

    What made you by a 32" barrelled Trap gun rather than a Sporter?

    They are designed for particular disciplines.

    I've always wanted a black action gun and i shoot with a very high comb. In fact I had to make new pillers for the adjustable comb on my existing gun.

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    I shot the lower stepped ribbed x trap for a while never gelled with it as well as the 682 sporter that had 30” barrels.  It was to things the x trap barrels where too heavy and the rib was just not right for incoming or dropping birds great on going away and rising crossers. 

     

     

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    75 today a bit below average but quite a wind affected shoot. The only target I had real problems with was close rabbit's which I would normally shoot with cylinder choke and don't usually miss.

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    28 minutes ago, bornfree said:

    75 today a bit below average but quite a wind affected shoot. The only target I had real problems with was close rabbit's which I would normally shoot with cylinder choke and don't usually miss.

    Like I said in a previous thread, I missed all four quartering incoming rabbits on a local shoot with my usual half and half, but killed all four with full and full.  I also killed all eight of simultaneous pairs of very close in crossers with full and full, which I failed to do with half and half. I would also stress that the gun choked full and full was with me for the very first time, having never fired it before. Go figure.

    Like I said, it aint the chokes. 😉

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