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    info wanted

    does anyone know anything about the Caesar Guerin Ellipse Evo any information would be much appreciated

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    Hi Dave

    I've puchased  9 CG,s in the past 

    One for a friend one for a nephew and sold others to upgrade

    I own 4    A magnus  an Essex ltd edition and 2 Maxum's in 12 and 20

    Have,nt tried an eclipse Evo round body yet  But i love these CG's Their well made, and well finnished off , hand finnished and alot of gun for your buck with some nice walnut woodwork that puts more expensive guns to shame

    10 year warranty that's transferrable and the best after sales service in the business

    The business was set up by two nephews of the renowned  Batista Rizinni who worked for their uncle and set up in the back of his factory developing thier guns Then set up on their own in 2000

    They went on to now own the  Fabarm brand

    I can sincerely recommend them

    Good luck

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    Posted (edited)

    Dave I've been looking at them myself, the new engraving is nice nudge nudge wink wink.

    The internals are same as most other models so are barrels on most of the models maxis choked external on spotters internal on game. Found one on Guntrader having teague chokes whether this was done at request or after buying not sure. Other difference I can find is the action shape and stock shape through the hand looks very long and snake like and where it's headed to the action it has the curve There is a RF1 sporting version made for Richard Faulds when he joined C&G but now he looks like he is using the Invictus five.

    The Ellipse Evo curve seem to be a little over priced compared to other models in the line up, around same as a Invictus grade 5.

    Edited by figgy

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    @Silverpigeon69 has the ellipse in a 12g game, and he shoots very well with it. Very pretty gun and well made, the "game scene" always attracts attention!

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    It's really a matter of personal taste as the Ellipse, like most of the more expensive CGs, sells on it's looks. Mechanically it's the same as every other model in the original range, although I've been told by an owner that the receiver is fractionally wider.

    I'm more than happy with my Challenger but if I do get the urge to change it'll probably be to an Invictus.

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    17 hours ago, davewh100 said:

    info wanted

    does anyone know anything about the Caesar Guerin Ellipse Evo any information would be much appreciated

    dave

    Hi Dave

    Is it the curves of the action you like or the curves under the action engraving that attracts you lol :lol:

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    1 hour ago, sabel25 said:

    Hi Dave

    Is it the curves of the action you like or the curves under the action engraving that attracts you lol 

    hi mate the gun in question is for my mate he had f16 3 months old sent back twice so lost all conference in in so the shop took it back hence looking fir new gun, 

    dave

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    Well never had any problems with my CG's

    Might be worth taking a look at the Maxum  apex or forum  in this sort of price range

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    1 hour ago, sabel25 said:

    Well never had any problems with my CG's

    Might be worth taking a look at the Maxum  apex or forum  in this sort of price range

    seems to be a lot of mixed reviews the gun is brand new with a exhibition wood absolutely stunning wood, think these are over 4500 new it's been offered for 3500 the gun was wone in a compilation

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    On 04/01/2019 at 23:52, sabel25 said:

    Hi Dave

    I've puchased  9 CG,s in the past 

    One for a friend one for a nephew and sold others to upgrade

    I own 4    A magnus  an Essex ltd edition and 2 Maxum's in 12 and 20

    Have,nt tried an eclipse Evo round body yet  But i love these CG's Their well made, and well finnished off , hand finnished and alot of gun for your buck with some nice walnut woodwork that puts more expensive guns to shame

    10 year warranty that's transferrable and the best after sales service in the business

    The business was set up by two nephews of the renowned  Batista Rizinni who worked for their uncle and set up in the back of his factory developing thier guns Then set up on their own in 2000

    They went on to now own the  Fabarm brand

    I can sincerely recommend them

    Good luck

    Beware of the man with only one gun , he’s proberbly a good shot .

    harnser

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    8 hours ago, davewh100 said:

    seems to be a lot of mixed reviews the gun is brand new with a exhibition wood absolutely stunning wood, think these are over 4500 new it's been offered for 3500 the gun was wone in a compilation

    the mixed reviews are not from pw but local clay grouds mainly kelbrook, think my mate need to pick one up and try first, wen he took the f16 back they lent him a beretta 692 which he shoots very well so maybe this is also an option

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    Tell him to try the Invictus if he shoots the 692 well. 

    I think the 30" barrel version of the Invictus is very nice to shoot.

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    I use the 30" Invictus V as my main clay gun, and have been using perhaps 1k shells per month for the last 30 months or so, and the gun is still nice, tight, and had had zero problem. Would definitely recommend. I've also been shooting it on game, with internal chokes it just looks like a pretty game gun and is excellent even with heavy loads.

    Also, I've seen @Silverpigeon69 's gun a few times, it's fantastic looking and he's pretty mighty with it..

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    Must admit I’m seeing more and more mentions of this manufacturer, and they do look amazing value and quality, I guess only time will tell on now they will last,  but judging by the fat they have a 10 year warranty is say they are going to hold up well. The woodwork and scrolling looks outstanding  

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    23 hours ago, davewh100 said:

    seems to be a lot of mixed reviews the gun is brand new with a exhibition wood absolutely stunning wood, think these are over 4500 new it's been offered for 3500 the gun was wone in a compilation

    It would seem everyone I have spoke with who works at Kelbrook hasn't one pleasant comment to make about them, not so much S/H ones but new ones also, I am beginning to think it's in their T&Cs of job requirements & skills . . .  ..

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    23 minutes ago, InTheSticks said:

    It would seem everyone I have spoke with who works at Kelbrook hasn't one pleasant comment to make about them, not so much S/H ones but new ones also, I am beginning to think it's in their T&Cs of job requirements & skills . . .  ..

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    Agreed the Maxum deluxe is a lovely looking gun. I have been looking at these and the B.rizzini RB regal deluxe. Not sure I can see the difference between these and paying a lot more for a new EELL! 

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    Maybe that Kelbrook are sponsored by a certain make of gun Probably Beretta

    I have the same maxum but with pow stock and schabel forend and half the money of an EELL and better wood

    How much would a Beretta to this spec above  cost and what number would Beretta apply to it, as they have more numbers than a phone directory and more letters  than the alphabet

    Maybe that's why they double up on letters

    Beretta had a good name 20/ 30 years back but qouting Beretta shooters Their modern guns are not as good as the older models and they are over pricing on past performance

    Caesar Guerini are proving this point making  attractive guns that are proving themselves

    When i'am out on shoots everyone picks my Maxum up to look over and inspect No other gun attracts this interest incl  browning Miroku beretta  so much so some of my shooting mates are looking for a Maxum and have asked me to source one for them

    Need i say more

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    Hi Dave

    Had a look at these F16 blaser and looked at reviews

    What an expensive boring pile of **** they seem to be

    It's like BMW putting thier rotary badge on a Larder They look ****** awfull and it's going to reflect on the Blaser reputation Not that i'am an admirer of German guns Just do not float my boat

    I think Blaser has made a massive mistake which will turn around and bite them on the **** plus it will be interesting as to who is actually making them?

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    Some Guerinis are decent enough value. Have a look at some of the others over 10k for a new makers gun. I think they’re starting to outprice themselves on some models. 

     

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    Just to add my penny worth. If I had the money I would go out tomorrow and buy a 20g Maxum. Most seem to be with 32 inch barrels but being vertically challenged, I would have 30 inch barrels to avoid a trip hazard !!

    Lovely looking guns and I had the pleasure of trying a 20g Maxum recently and it looked great and handled beautifully and I shot well with it (or as well as I'm ever likely to). I would personally go for a rounded POW type stock. The solid top rib makes for easier and better cleaning and the sideplates set the gun off a treat. What's not to like. As for longevity, I think that Buze's post above is testament to that.

    I did have a 20g Ellipse Ltd (the cheaper version of the Evo) which had what was described as a colour hardened finish with a CG trademark alongside. Couldn't fault the gun for performance etc, however, I inadvertently left some blood on the action and when I cleaned it off, the colour finish came off. Turned out it was a sort of lacquer finish. I'm not sure whether they still make this model.

    Like others have said, other manufacturers seem to be pricing themselves out of the market.

    OB

     

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    Posted (edited)

    Also worth mentioning, and what I’m seeing time and time again is the after sales support, which is apparently the best there is out there, which to me is as important as the gun itself as inevitably something will go wrong, it’s how it’s dealt with, fixed and the support received.

    I draw parallels to the motor industry, some of the best cars (manufacturers) have the worst customer service, as they ride on the back of a ‘were the best’ attitude. That will work for the short term until something/someone better comes along. 

    Anyway a bit more gun porn..

     

     

     

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    I’ve just downloaded the latest literature on the range, also a very well written and produced brochure, with some great technology as well. I’m getting worried guys, these guns are starting to grow on me, the more I read the more it makes sense, it really does. 

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    Edited by TK421

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