Jacko3275 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: But surely a time factor will come into play if he has no prior convictions or been in any trouble since i know of people with both FAC and SG tickets if you hit there misses you wont be doing much shooting for some time but i take your point I had no previous and nothing since other Than a couple of speed tickets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Oddly enough, I was taught never to hit anyone. If someone harms a person close to you then there are many options open to you to pay them back without damaging your reputation. Using the term "knock 10 bails out of him" just goes to show that you are still living in the past when "an altercation took place" would have sufficed. To admit to pulling the "I'm depressed card", Rim Fire, maybe you should ask the OP what sort of man he is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: The choices you make regards retaliation are a matter entirely up to you. Those choices often end up with consequences, as in the OP , he was convicted of ABH. Years later those consequence follow you, and those choices you made, make others make choices about you. 100% Was this reaction imediate at the time to prevent further injury to the female or was it afterwards in a different venue ? ABH is what it says ...actual bodily harm. Edited January 8, 2019 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) I'm a normal guy who had a bad year what more can I say Knocking ten bail out of it is just a figure of speech and I new I had overstepped the mark which is why I pleaded guilty and told my missus not to try for assault against her to get me off 4 minutes ago, Walker570 said: 100% Was this reaction imediate at the time to prevent further injury to the female or was it afterwards in a different venie ? ABH is what it says ...actual bodily harm. It was in front of me so it was an instant reaction Edited January 8, 2019 by Jacko3275 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Walker570 said: 100% Was this reaction imediate at the time to prevent further injury to the female or was it afterwards in a different venie ? ABH is what it says ...actual bodily harm. Exactly, if the attack had happened as he defended his girlfriend from the assailant , its unlikely he would have been done for ABH. Sounds like a revenge job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog1408 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) You expect to be taken at your word on here, why not extend the courtesy to others? Edited January 8, 2019 by Seadog1408 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jacko3275 said: It was in front of me so it was an instant reaction Fair enough , I retract the revenge job comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 You can still get done for ABH if it was self defence or to prevent another crime as I said I over stepped the mark and was rightly reprimanded for it I payed my penance for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jacko3275 said: You can still get done for ABH if it was self defence or to prevent another crime as I said I over stepped the mark and was rightly reprimanded for it I payed my penance for it I wont argue with you about it without knowing what happened, but self defence of yourself or others, using 'reasonable force' would not have got you a conviction, if you decided, with your anger, to continue to attack the assailant after the threat to yourself or others was gone, would have. For what its worth, the self defence laws in this country are pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) I have owned airguns all my life the kitchen draw is full of knives my shed is full of tools that could cause serious harm and I have never used nor threatened anyone harm with any them Edited January 8, 2019 by Jacko3275 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartyboy Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Bottom line is that no one on this forum can tell you for sure if you will get your SGC granted. And no one can say for sure how they would react if put in the same position as you where, when you committed your offence. You will get plenty of opinions but the only way forward is to continue your application and be totally honest with the enquiry officers. If you are unsuccessful, look at other ways of continuing shooting if you are keen. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 I remember on another thread on this forum, where someone mentioned they had previously had firearms offences and have certs. I'll see if I can find it and post a link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 There’s only one way to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Isn't it bells ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno243 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 The only thing that I know for sure is that you won't get a proper answer to that particular question on here (as evidenced by the preceding two pages...). Without knowing the exact circumstances, your full history, your medical background, your current state of mind and all the other things that you will be vetted for anything written on this forum regarding your initial statement is nothing more than personal opinion. The only person who can give you a definitive answer will be your local FLM, on the basis of advice given to him/her by your FEO. Submit your application, be absolutely honest with the Police, and if refused ask their advice on possible future courses of action. Best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prem1234 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Hamster said: Isn't it bells ? Yes it's bells.....most commonly 7 bells 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 42 minutes ago, Jonno243 said: The only thing that I know for sure is that you won't get a proper answer to that particular question on here (as evidenced by the preceding two pages...). Without knowing the exact circumstances, your full history, your medical background, your current state of mind and all the other things that you will be vetted for anything written on this forum regarding your initial statement is nothing more than personal opinion. The only person who can give you a definitive answer will be your local FLM, on the basis of advice given to him/her by your FEO. Submit your application, be absolutely honest with the Police, and if refused ask their advice on possible future courses of action. Best of luck. All I wanted was opinions and if people new of stories of people with a checkered past getting an sgc. If I don't get it I'm no worse off just have to rely on friend going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just apply see what comes no good asking on here only your fao will tell you yes or no good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 13 hours ago, Jacko3275 said: All I wanted was opinions and if people new of stories of people with a checkered past getting an sgc. If I don't get it I'm no worse off just have to rely on friend going Good attitude Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Apply and find out. Only the licensing dept will have the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 49 minutes ago, Muddy Funker said: Apply and find out. Only the licensing dept will have the answer. +1 it will cost you nothing as if you do get refused the police will refund your money anyway, go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timerider Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 08/01/2019 at 20:05, Jacko3275 said: All I wanted was opinions and if people new of stories of people with a checkered past getting an sgc. If I don't get it I'm no worse off just have to rely on friend going As a lot of others have said, each application is different and will depend on many factors. A good mate of mine has been in the same boat as you, he knocked a guy out for laying hands on his wife, it was 11 years ago but he was worried his sgc application would be turned down because of it, he received his cert in the post last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, Timerider said: As a lot of others have said, each application is different and will depend on many factors. A good mate of mine has been in the same boat as you, he knocked a guy out for laying hands on his wife, it was 11 years ago but he was worried his sgc application would be turned down because of it, he received his cert in the post last week. That's good to hear... I have had a letter asking for dates I'm available for a visit that has gone back so just hoping that's one step nearer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the farrier Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I have recently been issued with a co terminus shotgun/ firearms certificate despite suffering from depression in the past, I explained that I can still manage to run my own successful business and employee people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timerider Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jacko3275 said: That's good to hear... I have had a letter asking for dates I'm available for a visit that has gone back so just hoping that's one step nearer Well I think if they are arranging your visit that it`s looking positive. I`m pretty sure they will have done your background checks before they visit you, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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