andrew f Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 I have had a google and can’t seem to find many stockiest in the uk anyone used them and what did you think of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Apperantley chris potter guns in Kent are stocking these in no7 shot at the moment. Just been reading about them on another forum. Sound like a good load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted January 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, aga man said: Apperantley chris potter guns in Kent are stocking these in no7 shot at the moment. Just been reading about them on another forum. Sound like a good load. Oh good I will find out how much a slab is currently apparently there rather cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Based on the assumptions that these are 12 bore and the 7 shot is 7 shot, what will these achieve that 32g (even if you need to go that heavy) will not? Unless of course you have a gun with little or no choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Rumour has it that these are a 6.5 shot in terms of actual shot size and in a 36gm load are a close match to pigeon extreme which everyone raves about on the high stuff but these Bornaghi are selling for £50 a slab in some shops. Sounds like a good shell for that money. Edited January 13, 2019 by aga man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 2.5mm/6.5 shot as you say. Different ballpark and quite handy without having to have too much choke which always makes things more difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, wymberley said: 2.5mm/6.5 shot as you say. Different ballpark and quite handy without having to have too much choke which always makes things more difficult. Yes my plan was too use them though my sxs which is choked at 1/2 and full perhaps they won’t work too well maybe pattern test time if I can find some to play with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 36g of size 6.5 would interesting to see the patterns. Might blow it into a donut ring type or be fantastic. Post up your findings please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 13/01/2019 at 14:56, aga man said: Rumour has it that these are a 6.5 shot in terms of actual shot size and in a 36gm load are a close match to pigeon extreme which everyone raves about on the high stuff but these Bornaghi are selling for £50 a slab in some shops. Sounds like a good shell for that money. if you can buy 36 gram carts at 50 per slab thats 200pounds per 1000 buy me a million the lead for 36 gram is about 90 pounds per 100 been a big mistake made i think i will phone them right now and report back cheers george Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Buy them all George! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 hello, i realy do not see the need to use a 36 gram cartridge for pigeon shooting, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, propercartridges said: if you can buy 36 gram carts at 50 per slab thats 200pounds per 1000 buy me a million the lead for 36 gram is about 90 pounds per 100 been a big mistake made i think i will phone them right now and report back cheers george well just been on phone right enough thats the price but only got 1250 left i have asked them to get me a 40 foot artic at about 600 000 he just laughed and said he didnt think can get any more at that price came through another dealer to clear them out never mind cheers george Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Surprised they have any left at that price! I agree probably over kill for pigeons but would be a useful load for roost shooting etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i realy do not see the need to use a 36 gram cartridge for pigeon shooting, 4 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i realy do not see the need to use a 36 gram cartridge for pigeon shooting, no but when lads are paying nearly that for 28 gram to shoot them they are a gift at 166 plus vat anyway i shoot 36 gram 4s at high flighting pigeon to get a bit practice in for good high game using the term get a cartridge and stick to it cheers george 20 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Buy them all George! tryed to but not worth the few they have left leave them for a local any more and wood have been there like a rat up a drain pipe happy new year davy boy cheers george Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Same to you Mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutron619 Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) On 15/01/2019 at 09:31, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i realy do not see the need to use a 36 gram cartridge for pigeon shooting, And yet it was the traditional pigeon load for many, many years. I'd argue, in fact, that it still is - although of course, not many folk use it given modern, StupidFast™ cartridges kick rather harder than the old ones did. Funny that. A cynic might suggest that they'd worked out that making sensible cartridges too uncomfortable to shoot would shrink the market at that end and let them charge a higher price for "speedier", somewhat under-loaded replacement brands, whilst saving ¼ of the price of the lead. Of course, I don't know any cynics, so it's hard to form a judgement... PS - A look at one of the old Eley diarys would probably be informative. Anything pre-1995 would probably be about right. Edited January 16, 2019 by neutron619 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, neutron619 said: And yet it was the traditional pigeon load for many, many years. I'd argue, in fact, that it still is - although of course, not many folk use it given modern, StupidFast™ cartridges kick rather harder than the old ones did. Funny that. A cynic might suggest that they'd worked out that making sensible cartridges too uncomfortable to shoot would shrink the market at that end and let them charge a higher price for "speedier", somewhat under-loaded replacement brands, whilst saving ¼ of the price of the lead. Of course, I don't know any cynics, so it's hard to form a judgement... PS - A look at one of the old Eley diarys would probably be informative. Anything pre-1995 would probably be about right. Didn't that load relate in the main to the competitive live pigeon shooting where you needed to stop it dead before it left the kill zone and there was big money wagered? Archie Coats always used bog standard Grand Prix and even in the 30s Burrard was similarly minded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, neutron619 said: And yet it was the traditional pigeon load for many, many years. I'd argue, in fact, that it still is - although of course, not many folk use it given modern, StupidFast™ cartridges kick rather harder than the old ones did. Funny that. A cynic might suggest that they'd worked out that making sensible cartridges too uncomfortable to shoot would shrink the market at that end and let them charge a higher price for "speedier", somewhat under-loaded replacement brands, whilst saving ¼ of the price of the lead. Of course, I don't know any cynics, so it's hard to form a judgement... PS - A look at one of the old Eley diarys would probably be informative. Anything pre-1995 would probably be about right. hello, one of the best professional pigeon shooters only used eley gand prix which are 30g in new terms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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