steve_b_wales Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 I've just been reading (via email) about the above. It's the size of a grain of rice and can be fitted to any firearm (inside the stock for example) and can be read by all police forces. Not sure if this is a good idea or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 I think it’s a good idea .if the gun is stolen then found they now whose it is .plus proof of ownership. they put them on animals why not guns . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 I’m not really sure what is to be gained by ‘chipping’ a gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigroomboy Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Any links to some you can buy now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Rather have the insurance than the gun back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted February 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 25 minutes ago, bigroomboy said: Any links to some you can buy now? It's produced by pellet perfect . co . uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Do seral numbers not do the same thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabel25 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, bluesj said: Do seral numbers not do the same thing? Yes exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, bluesj said: Do seral numbers not do the same thing? Yes they do until they are filed off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, oowee said: Rather have the insurance than the gun back? Yep. Any gun which has been stolen and potentially been used in crime is very unlikely to be returned to its former legal owner, especially one with its serial numbers ground off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSpredder Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 If every police force can read these chips, there is a fair chance that any serious criminal gang will soon acquire a suitable scanner, enabling them to locate and remove the chips from stolen guns. Just as thieves can remove the chip from a stolen dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) Been chipping bikes/pets/etc for years! Any gain would be marginal I suspect! Edited February 16, 2019 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Since when did criminals file off serial numbers? What do they gain from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, wildrover77 said: Since when did criminals file off serial numbers? What do they gain from it? Regularly, to hide the identity of the weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoozer Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) Looks to be a good idea. Edited February 16, 2019 by Snoozer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Snoozer said: Looks to be a good idea. As a matter of interest why, what are the pros and cons, perhaps I've missed something, but personally I believe any benefit is marginal! Cheers Edited February 16, 2019 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabel25 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Dekers said: As a matter of interest why, what are the pros and cons, perhaps I've missed something, but personally I believe any benefit is marginal! Cheers I believe so as well The one con i see will be the insurance companies ( when they see this ) jumping on the band wagon with some insisting they have to be chipped to warrant cover or pay a higher premium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 I struggle to see the value in this tag. The gun already has a unique identifying mark in the serial number so another unique identifying mark adds nothing at all. The ability to read that by an RF scan is a solution looking for a problem that doesn't exist. Chipping dogs or other items with non unique identifiable references is fine. Being the cynic that I am I can also see a potential for abuse of this sort of technology if it became widespread in it's adoption. Say mandatory chipping was introduced so the police could scan any firearm at any point they choose for whichever reason they choose, which of course in theory matters not a jot if you are doing nothing untoward, but it would simply invite further burden onto those that are already law abiding and have already had to jump through hoops to establish that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog1408 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 (Tongue in cheek) but where to put it?!!! To far forward, gun too heavy in the barrel, too far back barrels will swing wildly, and let's not think about the side to side balance ratio!!! i can't see a benefit to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildrover77 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 3 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Regularly, to hide the identity of the weapon. What good does it achieve hiding the identity of the gun? I think you have been watching to many cop shows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 I've never seen a serial number filed off an illegal gun and I've seen plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, GingerCat said: I've never seen a serial number filed off an illegal gun and I've seen plenty. Fair enough; renders the need for a chip even more negligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozz Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 I supose where this idea would fit in is when or if a stolen gun turns up in a post office job or found somewhere the police can identify it even if the numbers have gone .this way they can turn round and say ahh thats bobs shotgun from sutch n sutch a place and by knowing where the gun came from means they can cross that perticular fierarm of the missing list . Unfortunatly for the shooting comunity i think this sort of thing wont help us and is very unlikley the police would return ur spanish boxlock with no numbers or with custom 13" barrels .it would more likely just be used against us if one goes missing im shure the media would love to say legal owned gun turns up at murder location blah blah .its a shame they dont fit theas as standard to all the russian hand guns that are coming through our open border in the back of cars .however i doubt u would here that on tv . But as said above in one of the posts criminals learn quick and would soon get rid of the tag .the only real way of doing something to find ur gun if it went missing is to have some sort of tracker in the stock to help police locate it .but even then the criminals will just buy the softwhere off ebay and then drive round tracking guns and know exactly where to look . Remember lose lips sink ships. Dont advertise u have guns and hopfuly they wont get robed and u wont need the chip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Even if the numbers got filed off, they can still be read, so I fail to see any merit in this additional extra. Money making scheme? Sell the chips - sell the readers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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