Doitwithstyle Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) Hi all I have a older Remington 1100 . Will cycle 27gram carts . But not light loads . On very rare occasion it will sometimes fail to cycle . And then after manually ejection will work fine again Some other forums . Say there’s will work with 21g and others say there won’t work unless the 32g or higher I have a skeet barrel fitted with 2 gas ports i only shoot clays . Was wondering if opening the ports up will make a difference or just fudge the barrel . Or is there any thing that can be replaced or looked at to maybe make it work with the lighter loads . Basically I’m to tight to by 27/28 for my semi and then 21 for my overunder . The recoil is nothing on the semi . But after a round or 2 with 28s in the o/u it isn’t to fun . Any advice would be much appreciated Edited February 18, 2019 by Doitwithstyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumfelter Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 I'd check the gun fit on the o/u. My Mrs can shoot two rounds comfortably with her silver pigeon and 28g eley Olympic blues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 My remmy 1187 won't cycle anything under 28g and it doesn't even like low power 28g like comp X or eley first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitwithstyle Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 The gun fit on my o/u is pretty good . It is a field gun not a sporter . And the butt pad is a rock . So a new squishy pad might help me out . And iv only used superfasts or velocity + . So can’t relate to the above carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opossum Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 I found out recently my 1100 doesn't like 27g superfasts... It was night and day when I used a different brand 28g instead! We even got it to cycle with 24g Fiocchi's at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 I’d google search it .... bound to be some good advice somewhere!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) I did some research on this with my Remington 1187s, specifically in respect of the gas sealing ring. I got mine to cycle 21g and 24g by changing the size of the ring. I put the results on the semi auto club thread ( I believe it was page 19 or 20) if that’s any help. I did not want to open the ports as they can’t subsequently be undrilled. additionally, working parts scrupulously clean with minimal oil Edited February 19, 2019 by impala59 Afterthought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 My 1100's minimum cycling load was 28g. Using 2 x 'O ' rings it now happily cycles 24g. Haven't tried 21g but will put some through it this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 14 hours ago, impala59 said: I did some research on this with my Remington 1187s, specifically in respect of the gas sealing ring. I got mine to cycle 21g and 24g by changing the size of the ring. I put the results on the semi auto club thread ( I believe it was page 19 or 20) if that’s any help. I did not want to open the ports as they can’t subsequently be undrilled. additionally, working parts scrupulously clean with minimal oil This 1 hour ago, Robertt said: My 1100's minimum cycling load was 28g. Using 2 x 'O ' rings it now happily cycles 24g. Haven't tried 21g but will put some through it this week. And this. Invest in a seals kit, keep in lubed with light coat of oil, and it should cycle 21g , mine does . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitwithstyle Posted February 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 16 hours ago, impala59 said: I did some research on this with my Remington 1187s, specifically in respect of the gas sealing ring. I got mine to cycle 21g and 24g by changing the size of the ring. I put the results on the semi auto club thread ( I believe it was page 19 or 20) if that’s any help. I did not want to open the ports as they can’t subsequently be undrilled. additionally, working parts scrupulously clean with minimal oil Will try find this now . Thanks Also will def giv this a try 3 hours ago, Robertt said: My 1100's minimum cycling load was 28g. Using 2 x 'O ' rings it now happily cycles 24g. Haven't tried 21g but will put some through it this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitwithstyle Posted February 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 Ok had a quick read of you old post .... confused me lol .. so to the other comment .... just run the gun with 2 o ring instead of the one ? Any negatives to doing that ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 I have heard of this, when I tried it the gun would not go fully into battery and the gun would not fire. To simply cut to the chase of my experiments, go on the bay and get some viton o rings with an inside diameter of 24 mm and a cross section of 2 to 2.4 mm. these are slightly oversize, the OE part being about 1.6 mm. These oversized gas seals should retain slightly more gas pressure from a lighter load and consequently cycle the action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) Try 2 O rings for light loads and if it works, it works. For 28g - 42g I remove the extra O ring. The 1187 is slightly different spec and thus the barrels are not interchangeable. Edited February 19, 2019 by Robertt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 44 minutes ago, Robertt said: Try 2 O rings for light loads and if it works, it works. For 28g - 42g I remove the extra O ring. The 1187 is slightly different spec and thus the barrels are not interchangeable. Agreed, the 1100 is a slightly different gas system and I bow to your experience with that model, also putting 2 gas seals in is a very simple experiment to carry out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitwithstyle Posted February 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 Shall see what happens . Also will have a look to find the thicker o rings mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 Took my lads clay shooting today and they used 21g Cheddite trap with 2 x O rings and 100% cycling in the 1979 Rem 1100. Proud to say they missed very little on the sporting layout and high tower. Used a handful of Eley Select 21g, which I know are quite mild and they didn't come close to cycling. What you have to consider, if you wish to use the lighter loads, is that when the 1100 was concieved clays were shot with 32g and game 36g. Having said that most 1100's I've used work with 24g and some, which haven't had the original action springs replaced will work will cycle with 21g trap type loads easily. Daft but where I clay shoot the 24/28g are the cheapest. W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 Plus it’s been said before but worth repeating, new action springs are the enemy of light loads but are required for 28g + to protect the working parts. Good buffers are necessary for all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitwithstyle Posted February 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Will try double o ring 1st and see if I have any luck . If not will just stick with what I have . As I love the gun . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Mine will cycle 21g 70mm cartridges the difficulty is find the 70mm cartridge length as most are 65mm. The gas ports must also be clean and the recoil spring in good condition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitwithstyle Posted February 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 7 hours ago, welshwarrior said: Mine will cycle 21g 70mm cartridges the difficulty is find the 70mm cartridge length as most are 65mm. The gas ports must also be clean and the recoil spring in good condition Is that with 2 o rings ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitwithstyle Posted February 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Billy no mates today and didn’t wana go on my one . So couldn’t test However 2 o rings are now fitted and gun is nice a clean . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 When you say gas port clean I mean really clean I finger twiddle a drill bit into the ports of most that are “clean” and remove a fair amount of carbon they work much better when clean clean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitwithstyle Posted February 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Yes I use I drill bit by hand . Just a little bit smaller to fit in the ports . I didn’t want to use any thing bigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) Afterthought If you havn't already, remove, clean and lightly lube action spring also the action spring tube, which can accumulate a fair amount of muck. It helps if someone firmly holds the receiver when you remove the spring and make sure its not pointing at anything valuable as if you don't catch it, it can fly out with considerable gusto. Edited March 2, 2019 by Robertt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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