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This may be fake news but a friend of mine who shoots clay every Sunday for the past thirty years has developed a cough. Talking to his doctor he stated that an American Docter had taken one of the cartridge manufacturers to court re the toxic fumes emitted from shot cartridges. 

I told my friend that I often get a lungfull when loading in a panic but if it is toxic should they not state on the box???

I've put my tin hat on and retreated to the bunker!!!!!

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It just can't be good for you. Even cigarettes are moving towards the non combustion variety. Not sure it would work so well for cart's 

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Not sure how toxic the fumes are but over the years when shooting in calm-ish weather and ending up with a lung full of smoke on opening the gun, it used to give me an headache and on the night I did notice a bit of a sore throat but it had gone the next day.

Is it dangerous? Well I don’t think I have suffered any lasting effects after shooting for 50+ years.:/

Don’t spread this around or the government might put a pollution tax on our cartridges. :hmm:

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Probably some heavy metals in there.

The main powder reaction creates nitrogen I believe. Would explain a short term headache but I would imagine you would have to shoot a mathematically implausible amount to suffer long term effects from that.

(maybe talking rubbish here)

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2 minutes ago, Robertt said:

Does this mean I can't sniff fired paper Grand Prix anymore ? 😯

No, just keep to a healthy amount, don't become addicted!

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The old cordite used to produce a "cordite headache" well known to soldiers back when service ammunition used cordite. It was something to do with the fact that cordite contained nitro glycerine.

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6 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

The old cordite used to produce a "cordite headache" well known to soldiers back when service ammunition used cordite. It was something to do with the fact that cordite contained nitro glycerine.

only based on schoolboy chemistry but I would guess as they use Nitro spray for angina sufferers the fumes probably dilate your blood vessels and cause headache - anyone who's ever sniffed poppers will be familiar with the hot face and banging head! (former 90's rave child speaking)

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24 minutes ago, The Mighty Prawn said:

only based on schoolboy chemistry but I would guess as they use Nitro spray for angina sufferers the fumes probably dilate your blood vessels and cause headache - anyone who's ever sniffed poppers will be familiar with the hot face and banging head! (former 90's rave child speaking)

I should’ve thought using Viagra as an example of blood vessel dilation would be more appropriate on this forum.......😂

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One of my father's friends swore black powder smoke was a laxative and that's why battles only used to last a day.

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13 minutes ago, Dibble said:

One of my father's friends swore black powder smoke was a laxative and that's why battles only used to last a day.

He never read up on Gettysburg then?

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The powder in some little devils I have is a bit peppery after firing and the smoke makes me cough. Never found any others that do the same.

Any smoke or fumes from burning volitiyle material isnt going to be good for you.

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Those old S&B mark 2s paper cased 11/8 oz used to smell and make my eyes water i just put it down to old long recoil semi auto and my left handedness throwing residue in my eyes never thought about fumes.  cant say i ever noticed my eyes running with gas autos  just the old  inertia recoilers on some of those cheap cartridges . I supose the gas system takes away more of the fumes than the inertia guns do.

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Come on, American Lawyers have got to make a living and keep up their life style.   Popped a fair few thousand primers in the last 70yrs and still  getting around pretty well.  Like anything, take too much and it will kill you. Remember a guy, complete nutter, who believed carrot juice would make him into Mr Universe. He died of carotine poisoning.

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9 hours ago, Lord v said:

Probably some heavy metals in there.

The main powder reaction creates nitrogen I believe. Would explain a short term headache but I would imagine you would have to shoot a mathematically implausible amount to suffer long term effects from that.

(maybe talking rubbish here)

78% of the air we breath is  nitrogen so don't sweat it too much. 

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1 hour ago, figgy said:

The powder in some little devils I have is a bit peppery after firing and the smoke makes me cough. Never found any others that do the same.

Any smoke or fumes from burning volitiyle material isnt going to be good for you.

Just about finished 20,000 little devils never really noticed anything different with them.

Some clay shots fire 5000 a week and I don't see any of them with shortened life expectancy or a link with any nasty diseases so I think we can say that they are not hat bad for you.

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These Little Devils were from quite a few years ago. I used to shoot them all the time until they dissapeared. Then I bought some old stock that was left.  The powder was different to what I'd been used to.

When did you buy your Little Devil cartridges Perrazzishot.

 

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Winchester Trap 100 (don't know if you can still get them?) used to give me a headache within 5 minutes of using them - no other cartridge has ever done the same?

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19 hours ago, Vince Green said:

The old cordite used to produce a "cordite headache" well known to soldiers back when service ammunition used cordite. It was something to do with the fact that cordite contained nitro glycerine.

I have had the mother of all headaches from handling 808 plastic explosive without gloves, the nito glyceryne seeps into your skin,the older members of my troop who knew all about it thought it was very funny.
I honestly thought my head was going to explode.

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10 hours ago, bruno22rf said:

Winchester Trap 100 (don't know if you can still get them?) used to give me a headache within 5 minutes of using them - no other cartridge has ever done the same?

Could that be concussion rather than fumes? I got a headache after shooting too many heavy carts when I normally shoot light clay loads

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Used to love the smell given off the .22rf cartridges when shooting indoor comps as a cadet. 🙂

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2 hours ago, Scully said:

Used to love the smell given off the .22rf cartridges when shooting indoor comps as a cadet. 🙂

I think I got hooked on it😂

Know what you mean tho, smell can be a powerful sense, I can vividly remember sniffing peanut butter for the first time 40 years ago!

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On ‎14‎/‎03‎/‎2019 at 22:59, Perazzishot said:

Just about finished 20,000 little devils never really noticed anything different with them.

Some clay shots fire 5000 a week and I don't see any of them with shortened life expectancy or a link with any nasty diseases so I think we can say that they are not hat bad for you.

714  cartridges a day really. £1000 a week really.

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11 minutes ago, tignme said:

714  cartridges a day really. £1000 a week really.

No a 1000 a day they go fishing at the weekend 

its there job there professional shooters 

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