maverick123 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Hello fellow PW members. I am about to apply for my FAC- held shotguns for nearly 10 years now and been out shooting rifles with my friends for a few years so have have some FAC experience. I was going to apply for 22, 17HMR and either a 223/243 Land is about 500 acres - big hilly fields with plenty of safe shooting. Rabbit, fox, Chinese, Muntjac and Roe on the land and the farmer is more than happy to see all managed. My query is I realise the 243 is the only calibre for roe in the above quarry list but I see regularly on here people getting turned down on the 243 due to inexperience on first application, am I more likely to get an approval on the 223 which is fine for Muntjac and Chinese and the Foxes? Last thing I want is to be left without a fox suitable calibre or for the smaller deer (I know you can argue the 17 hmr at certain ranges for the fox) by over cooking the first application with the 243. To me the logic is that any rifle should be used safely so there shouldn't be much difference however I'm not an FEO and its not always viewed that way by them from the feedback on here. Can I put both on the form and write to discuss?! I don't want or need both. Can I write "or" on the form without looking like a plonker?! perhaps a covering letter? Any Guidance would be much appreciated- I realise my next move is probably just to have a good chat with the FEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 just explain "your good reason to have"...........and if it is credible i dont see the problem.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Put them both on and put your good reasons for both rifles then have a chat with the FEO when he comes for the interview. If you don't put them down then you definitely won't get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchstone Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Put in for what you want/need and familiarise yourself with the relevant sections of the guidance note concerning good reason etc. Your local constabulary will find it difficult to refuse. Don't get bogged down in providing additional information in covering letters, I believe it will only over complicate and confuse the situation. It's just my personal opinion but I wouldn't bother with the HMR though. Good luck, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Just now, Touchstone said: Put in for what you want/need and familiarise yourself with the relevant sections of the guidance note concerning good reason etc. Your local constabulary will find it difficult to refuse. Don't get bogged down in providing additional information in covering letters, I believe it will only over complicate and confuse the situation. It's just my personal opinion but I wouldn't bother with the HMR though. Good luck, Tim How about just put in for hmr at the moment .thats the cal most likely to get passed off .its also gonna cover most of your quarry .then put in a variation after 6 months for the .243. Forget the .223 You can add the .22lr later if you decide you need a quieter gun . Also Its definatly better to learn 1 cal at a time .imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 If you are turned down, you’re just as likely to be turned down for .223 as you are .243, so I personally don’t see the point in applying for a calibre not suitable for your needs. Just go for the .243 and take it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 From what you say you have good reason for the calibres stated, there should be no problem, as said if you don't ask you don't get, btw I got 3 c/fs on my 1st application I had good reason like yourself so no problem. Good luck scobydog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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