Dave0 Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Hi all Heres my first attempt at making a light weight magnet to fit hyper flaps to fit on it I have 3D printed most of the parts to test the build out once I am happy with how it runs I will make it out of aluminium heres where I am at with the build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Very clever indeed but if what I think I see is correct you will need more legs more widely spaced even for lightweight decoys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Yes as JDog says, you may well need to "beef up" the legs, quite a bit of rotational force moving long arms around and especially in higher winds. I look forward to developments as I "fly" 2 Hypaflaps on mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave0 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Thanks for the input guys I forgot to say I will be using paracord for 2 guide lines pegged down to help with stability I don’t know if it will help or not I just get fed up with carting the big heavy magnet ones and a big battery down the field with all the other stuff so trying to make all the kit lighter and less bulk 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) I have a single legged magnet with an inline vertical motor, I made up an aluminium base plate with three short spikes, will put a picture up shortly. Edited March 28, 2019 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldypigeonpopper Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) hello, that looks a nice well made magnet DaveO, goes to show how many PW members are skilled at doing many things, including these 3 D machines, 59 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I have a single legged magnet with an inline vertical motor, I made up an aluminium base plate with three short spikes, will put a picture up shortly. hello, another good idea Dave, i have started making the 3 section pigeon hide poles, cheers Edited March 28, 2019 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 I used the motors from the Grandkids old Segway things and for the single leg, I used their old aluminium stilts. I used a short piece of 22mm flattened copper pipe, cut to a point and then soldered closed. It was then inserted in the hollow end of the stilt and bolted through. The stilts have a right angled footrest bolted onto them, so I now use the footrest to press the leg into the ground, the footrest then stops the whole thing from rotating. Fixed by a cable tie to the top end of the leg are 4 pieces of para cord around 2 mtrs. long. These are then simply stretched out and held by tent pegs pushed into the ground. I use hyper-flaps on both machines and the stilt poles are adjustable for height. The motor is secured to the top of the pole by 2 large jubilee clips. They are around 8 years old now (the machines, NOT the Grandkids) and still going strong. A 12v 12a/hr battery works all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I have a single legged magnet with an inline vertical motor, I made up an aluminium base plate with three short spikes, will put a picture up shortly. Dave (TC) could I ask if the small green circular collar on top of the base plate that you made, is the original that the rotary came with (but turned upside down) ? Mine has similar that the three aluminium ground spikes screwed into. My rotary, similar to yours, was from UKSW but I mislaid the spikes so had to buy a heavy metal three spike jobby that they now provide in lieu of the three Ali spikes (if that makes sense). What I keep meaning to do is get some Ali rod and make replacements. OB Edited March 29, 2019 by Old Boggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Morning Chris, yes that's the one UKSW, it is a great rotary only let down by the poor design of the footplate that held the spikes at an angle which caused them to make slots in to the ground and offered very little support. Original spikes screwed in to a new wider foot plate affixed to the original angled footplate turned upside down and with three Allen headed bolts holding it together. Much better grip in the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinj Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) Good work, let us know how you get on with it. I'm with JDog you'll need three or more paracords Edited March 29, 2019 by martinj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave0 Posted March 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 I like the look of that magnet in the photos nice and compact I am hoping to pop up to the rap field later just to give this a go see what happens I’ll do a video and you all can see how it goes could be a laugh 😂 or it could end in tears but what ever happens I’ll still do a video lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave0 Posted March 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Well I didn’t get very far 😂😂😂 The 3D printed pegs to slot the arms on didn’t hold up to the weight of the arms I got 4 rotations of the magnet went to get my phone out to do a video then they gave way lol so no video tonight I have upgraded them now to aliumium so I’ll try again tomorrow take 2 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 15 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Morning Chris, yes that's the one UKSW, it is a great rotary only let down by the poor design of the footplate that held the spikes at an angle which caused them to make slots in to the ground and offered very little support. Original spikes screwed in to a new wider foot plate affixed to the original angled footplate turned upside down and with three Allen headed bolts holding it together. Much better grip in the ground. Dave, that looks like a good adaption of the original. Certainly, the three spikes at an angle were not always the easiest to push into hard ground and not the most stable as opposed to three vertical spikes. Your version is similar to the heavy metal one now provided by UKSW but with the obvious advantage of lightness. Many thanks for posting that and I trust that you won't mind if I copy your design. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Dave0 said: Well I didn’t get very far 😂😂😂 The 3D printed pegs to slot the arms on didn’t hold up to the weight of the arms I got 4 rotations of the magnet went to get my phone out to do a video then they gave way lol so no video tonight I have upgraded them now to aliumium so I’ll try again tomorrow take 2 😆 Dave0, I admire your initiative in making your own rotary and wish you every success once it is finally perfected. Just out of interest, do the two Allen grub screws allow the arms to adjust up and down as the one by UKSW as Tightchoke's one above indicates ? I have found that by having one arm almost horizontal (if the crop allows) and the other set at an angle it gives the two decoys a less symmetrical and more realistic looking rotation. Also, I'm with Tightchoke and invariably use hyperflaps which, to my mind, give more 'flapping' movement and have proved more successful on many occasions than real birds, appreciating of course, that your one is predominantly made for use with hyperflaps and not real birds anyway. Well done and good luck with it. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Old Boggy said: Dave, that looks like a good adaption of the original. Certainly, the three spikes at an angle were not always the easiest to push into hard ground and not the most stable as opposed to three vertical spikes. Your version is similar to the heavy metal one now provided by UKSW but with the obvious advantage of lightness. Many thanks for posting that and I trust that you won't mind if I copy your design. OB Not a problem at all, do you need any further pictures or dimensions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave0 Posted March 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 It’s up and running 👏 and works just got to see how well the motor motor will last now here’s a video see what you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Very good, can I suggest you angle the Hypaflaps inwards a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 hello, looks very good now DaveO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 3 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Very good, can I suggest you angle the Hypaflaps inwards a little. I agree, angled in, they present a slightly more natural look as though the birds are landing. It also goes to illustrate what I believe that the hypaflaps give far more movement than real birds. Well done Dave0, that looks a good lightweight set up. you should be well pleased. Just got to try it in the field and see what the pigeons think ! OB 10 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Not a problem at all, do you need any further pictures or dimensions? Dave, I would greatly appreciate some further details and dimensions if it`s not too much trouble. Will PM my email address if that makes it easier to send details. Many thanks, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 That's looks brilliant .👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 There's mine 2 years now really useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 On 30/03/2019 at 18:21, Old Boggy said: I agree, angled in, they present a slightly more natural look as though the birds are landing. It also goes to illustrate what I believe that the hypaflaps give far more movement than real birds. Well done Dave0, that looks a good lightweight set up. you should be well pleased. Just got to try it in the field and see what the pigeons think ! OB Dave, I would greatly appreciate some further details and dimensions if it`s not too much trouble. Will PM my email address if that makes it easier to send details. Many thanks, Chris I hope you have everything you need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave0 Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 For anyone wanting to have a go at this build you will need 2x1m M8 threaded bar 12 M8 nuts the motor I have used is ZGB37RG 47.5i sorry don’t have a link for it M3 screws to fix the motor to the plate a 6mm motor coupling hub then I used some arms from another magnet but you can make your own up to fit ill attach a photo of the measurements for the motor plate and the support plates then 4 guidelines and 4 pegs only thing I can’t say is how long the motor will last as I haven’t put it through a full days test yet the build cost me around £30 the weight is just over 1kg with no arms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 3 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I hope you have everything you need! Dave, yes the photos you kindly sent, give me all the information I need. Just got to source some ali rod as I mislaid the original ones. I am thinking of making the baseplate (like your aluminium one) out of some 1 inch thick plastic that I have and instead of tapping the ali rods into it,which probably wouldn`t work, secure them with nuts and washers both sides. What do you think ? OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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