propercartridges Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 well if there are a few chancers on here game to make a few bob go on google earth type in birtley and you will see a 200 foot tower put the little man on walkabout used to belong to bicc cables they tell me it was for streaching the cables when made i went in to ask the price but couldnt get no sense on fella in gate house woulnt even tell me who had bought the site but its there if any of you lot fancy making lead shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 On 22/04/2019 at 22:07, propercartridges said: well if there are a few chancers on here game to make a few bob go on google earth type in birtley and you will see a 200 foot tower put the little man on walkabout used to belong to bicc cables they tell me it was for streaching the cables when made i went in to ask the price but couldnt get no sense on fella in gate house woulnt even tell me who had bought the site but its there if any of you lot fancy making lead shot if you buy it i'll come working with you LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wigeon jim Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 I don't like heights 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmo Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 Buy it yourself , my god you can afford it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted April 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 17 hours ago, Salmo said: Buy it yourself , my god you can afford it . eye but who will run it i am not a octopuss with 10 or 12 legs who is this salmo anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 Why would you need the hassle and expense of a shot tower anyway, doesn't most shot get produced by the short drop method and besides, what kind of saving would making your own shot make ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted April 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hamster said: Why would you need the hassle and expense of a shot tower anyway, doesn't most shot get produced by the short drop method and besides, what kind of saving would making your own shot make ? how many carts are made in uk work that into tons of lead then on haulage alone from turkey and all other places over the water shipping handling charges is at least 120 pounds per ton lorrys running with containers from ports then returning the containers and a million other things that cost remember the short drop is a long method to produce quantitys the tower as quick as you open the tap the molten lead goes down theres not a short drop can gi you 40 tons a day keep feeding the furnace up stairs and away it goes just like a shower head i am 68 next and you who know me back 10 years and honest i would be doing it no zipp in young uns now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted April 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 On 24/04/2019 at 18:35, Continental Shooter said: if you buy it i'll come working with you LOL 18 hours ago, Salmo said: Buy it yourself , my god you can afford it . 39 minutes ago, Hamster said: Why would you need the hassle and expense of a shot tower anyway, doesn't most shot get produced by the short drop method and besides, what kind of saving would making your own shot make ? just do it i can make u 3 rich believe me i reckon 2 men at 100pounds each per day on 4 ton only can make you 1600 pounds per day better than drugs eh eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, propercartridges said: just do it i can make u 3 rich believe me i reckon 2 men at 100pounds each per day on 4 ton only can make you 1600 pounds per day better than drugs eh eh What is the initial capital outlay to buy the tower and separate that from the wider factory works, then the cost of stripping the old equipment for cable hanging, re-purposing to be a shot drop tower with the necessary infrastructure to support melting the lead, the handing equipment to get the tons of lead to the top of the tower and of course dispositioning the made shot from the bottom, then the cost of fitting the necessary fume extraction to deal with the unavoidable health and safety and environmental legislation along with the containment and bunds to secure any lead polluted water from the collection area seeping into surface drains and the local water table, etc? What is the cost of the raw material for lead ingots to melt down into the shot and what is the cost of storage and handling of that, plus the storage and handling of the made shot? Also of all the cart's in the UK, how many are imported as complete with lead shot sourced at the local point of manufacture versus those are stuffed in the UK? Gamebore drop their own lead I believe, but they are the only ones so the domestic market is you, Hull and who else and what is the estimated tonnage per day if you had say 60% of that market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted April 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 4 hours ago, grrclark said: What is the initial capital outlay to buy the tower and separate that from the wider factory works, then the cost of stripping the old equipment for cable hanging, re-purposing to be a shot drop tower with the necessary infrastructure to support melting the lead, the handing equipment to get the tons of lead to the top of the tower and of course dispositioning the made shot from the bottom, then the cost of fitting the necessary fume extraction to deal with the unavoidable health and safety and environmental legislation along with the containment and bunds to secure any lead polluted water from the collection area seeping into surface drains and the local water table, etc? What is the cost of the raw material for lead ingots to melt down into the shot and what is the cost of storage and handling of that, plus the storage and handling of the made shot? Also of all the cart's in the UK, how many are imported as complete with lead shot sourced at the local point of manufacture versus those are stuffed in the UK? Gamebore drop their own lead I believe, but they are the only ones so the domestic market is you, Hull and who else and what is the estimated tonnage per day if you had say 60% of that market? so whats happened to express and eley say the tower is 100k to buy chuck another 50 k to fix it up with everything thats 150k nothing these days can you tell me anything that will return you say 1500 a day for that small outlay 150k i have spent more on crisps just restocked in fear of brexit 600k standing waiting to be used nearly 370 000 pounds worth of powders and still short of swag pallet of fibre wads is kicking 4000 pounds never mind we are totaly hopless having to import all components just a shame to see it get pulled down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K85 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Anywere else in the world this would be a good idea. I dout youd get permision. Let alone the paper work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted April 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 40 minutes ago, K85 said: Anywere else in the world this would be a good idea. I dout youd get permision. Let alone the paper work the paperwork i have in place on the said amounts for the quantitys per day without all the hubbalu the scrubbers for the enviromental side again is based on quantitys and must be new ingots not **** from building site ect again i have a letter from the envoiroment office and at the end of the letter they wish me good luck with this project the tower itself needs to be priced and indeed bought now if say gamebore can do it in the middle of the city of hull as we so often hear from not so high a building can we do it up here i am sorry i dont roll over that easy at 68 i still thrive on challangers quite frankly i love it just i cannot do it all cheers george Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, propercartridges said: the paperwork i have in place on the said amounts for the quantitys per day without all the hubbalu the scrubbers for the enviromental side again is based on quantitys and must be new ingots not **** from building site ect again i have a letter from the envoiroment office and at the end of the letter they wish me good luck with this project the tower itself needs to be priced and indeed bought now if say gamebore can do it in the middle of the city of hull as we so often hear from not so high a building can we do it up here i am sorry i dont roll over that easy at 68 i still thrive on challangers quite frankly i love it just i cannot do it all cheers george More power to your elbow George! Sounds like a plan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K85 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Good look with it. If i was in the north east im game for trying. I get my antimony from a place near wolverhampton. I like to play with shot making Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Well if you don't buy/rent that tower and put a furnace at the top it will be a damned shame. George I look forward to developments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted April 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 hours ago, K85 said: Good look with it. If i was in the north east im game for trying. I get my antimony from a place near wolverhampton. I like to play with shot making come up ill rent you a house i have 6 standing empty 17 hours ago, propercartridges said: so whats happened to express and eley say the tower is 100k to buy chuck another 50 k to fix it up with everything thats 150k nothing these days can you tell me anything that will return you say 1500 a day for that small outlay 150k i have spent more on crisps just restocked in fear of brexit 600k standing waiting to be used nearly 370 000 pounds worth of powders and still short of swag pallet of fibre wads is kicking 4000 pounds never mind we are totaly hopless having to import all components just a shame to see it get pulled down 100 days to get your money back then you on the pigs back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K85 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Dont tempt me. I still regret not moving up north 15 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 On 26/04/2019 at 19:41, propercartridges said: so whats happened to express and eley say the tower is 100k to buy chuck another 50 k to fix it up with everything thats 150k nothing these days can you tell me anything that will return you say 1500 a day for that small outlay 150k i have spent more on crisps just restocked in fear of brexit 600k standing waiting to be used nearly 370 000 pounds worth of powders and still short of swag pallet of fibre wads is kicking 4000 pounds never mind we are totaly hopless having to import all components just a shame to see it get pulled down I don't disagree George and if the numbers you outline are accurate then £150k upfront for £1500 per day back is an absolute no brainer, needs more than back of a fag packet numbers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted April 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, grrclark said: I don't disagree George and if the numbers you outline are accurate then £150k upfront for £1500 per day back is an absolute no brainer, needs more than back of a fag packet numbers though. eye and thats at only 4 ton a day as quick as you can melt it down it goes they honestly tell me this method is capable of 40 tons a day mind you will have to give the lads 3 weetabix not 2 4 hours ago, K85 said: Dont tempt me. I still regret not moving up north 15 years ago. 58 mile to the border then all the rabbits and pigeons you want knee probs wi daft liecences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K85 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 59 minutes ago, propercartridges said: eye and thats at only 4 ton a day as quick as you can melt it down it goes they honestly tell me this method is capable of 40 tons a day mind you will have to give the lads 3 weetabix not 2 58 mile to the border then all the rabbits and pigeons you want knee probs wi daft liecences 3 weetabix and a stiff drink for the top of a 200ft tower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted April 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 oh sorry boys forgot to tell you the 1600 propfit minus a few bits of expenses is a trade price so go on 4 ton and add 50pence a kilo to end user which will be about 3 quid a kilo inc vat so at mo we are producing at say 1600 plus vat and we sell at 2.50 plus vat a kilo we are now 90p a kilo which is 900 pounds a ton times only 4 ton is 3800 pounds per day sorry everybody was talking trade price all this time what a silly billy i am well at 3800 i can give the lads 4 weetabix a day and all the lead shot to victims on here at 3 quid a kilo nice round tower dropped none of this square stuff thats going about at higher prices now do you still think i am a nutter cheers g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 22/04/2019 at 22:07, propercartridges said: well if there are a few chancers on here game to make a few bob go on google earth type in birtley and you will see a 200 foot tower put the little man on walkabout used to belong to bicc cables they tell me it was for streaching the cables when made i went in to ask the price but couldnt get no sense on fella in gate house woulnt even tell me who had bought the site but its there if any of you lot fancy making lead shot Crowd funding maybe? What road in Britley is the tower? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 hello, have a PW crowd fund, when enough buy it and rent it to George, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atf Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 Durham road, next to the Barley Mow estate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K85 Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 George Any ideas on seives and furneses extractors hoists. Grading equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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