Ajarrett Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 What!? Why would we stump up more money when there is probably in excess of £6 million in the bank doing nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, oowee said: Your right of course but we have known about the challenge since January. Basc are sitting on several million of our cash. Our sport is under threat each and every day. I would expect to see BASC leading from the front, not for me to look for what they are doing. If some poxy campaign group can garner support and cash to mount an action why is my organisation 'BASC' not leading from the front. I am sure, we as shooters, would be happy to match anything that BASC choose to raise in action against this sort of challenge. We do not know what they are doing they are aware have been all along on this. Just lets wait and see . I can not see how Ripping the heck out of BASC is at all constructive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ajarrett said: What!? Why would we stump up more money when there is probably in excess of £6 million in the bank doing nothing! And it is highly probable they are using some of that money doing nothing right now Doing something. Lets wait and see aye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 32 minutes ago, Jelly said: Interesting from the chairman of Natural England: He seems rather anti the legal challenge by Packham Excuse me i do not do tweeting but have i understood it right, that this Tony Juniper chap ? Today is his first day as chairman of Natural England Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelly Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, lancer425 said: Excuse me i do not do tweeting but have i understood it right, that this Tony Juniper chap ? Today is his first day as chairman of Natural England Right? It is indeed. What a first day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, Jelly said: It is indeed. What a first day! Yes he has been busy that’s for sure. I am not usually a sceptical person but all this seems a bit convenient . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 its being done at this time cause "they" are using Brexit as a deflector plate............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, lancer425 said: Yes he has been busy that’s for sure. I am not usually a sceptical person but all this seems a bit convenient . Old boss dig his heals in did he? .so he was sacked and now they employ their puppet as chairman and his first act is to revoke the gl. Might as well sell my guns now and take up knitting . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 From day one I absolutely and categorically detest the label “Natural England” . Now I hope they drown slowly in a bucket of pigs swill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ditchman said: its being done at this time cause "they" are using Brexit as a deflector plate............ My sentiments exactly its all too convenient you could not make this up. That fat lady is not singing yet though. Lets stay positive . Edited April 23, 2019 by lancer425 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, ditchman said: its being done at this time cause "they" are using Brexit as a deflector plate............ Evil filth but this is the reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 They managed this with 36k of crowd funding. Imagine would could be done if you had hundreds of thousands of members and millions in the bank......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: Old boss dig his heals in did he? .so he was sacked and now they employ their puppet as chairman and his first act is to revoke the gl. Might as well sell my guns now and take up knitting . Not good but dont get too down hearted just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, GingerCat said: They managed this with 36k of crowd funding. Imagine would could be done if you had hundreds of thousands of members and millions in the bank......... Agree but reason has to prevail at some point Packhams fantasy land will not stack up in the real world , pests need controlling, making it more complicated to do this will cost NE money Thats money they do not have. I do not see how this can work on so many different counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) I thought Natural England are sponsored and supported by DEFRA who have huge and unlimited resources all funded by the government and us ******* tax payers! Edited April 23, 2019 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserableolgit Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 58 minutes ago, lancer425 said: Excuse me i do not do tweeting but have i understood it right, that this Tony Juniper chap ? Today is his first day as chairman of Natural England Right? Anthony Juniper CBE is a British campaigner, writer, sustainability advisor and environmentalist who served as Executive Director of Friends of the Earth, England, Wales and Northern Ireland. He was Vice Chair of Friends of the Earth International from 2000–2008. Source Wikipedia Mr Juniper's website bio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver fox 1 Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Miserableolgit said: Anthony Juniper CBE is a British campaigner, writer, sustainability advisor and environmentalist who served as Executive Director of Friends of the Earth, England, Wales and Northern Ireland. He was Vice Chair of Friends of the Earth International from 2000–2008. Source Wikipedia Mr Juniper's website bio You couldn’t make this up could you. I shoot a lot under the gl and I hope things will be clearer after the 29th but I’m not gonna hold my breath. Edited April 24, 2019 by silver fox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 Before we all get carried away and blame everyone from NE, Anthony Juniper, BASC and those who shoot over stubble, let's just read and understand what the legal challenge actually states. Tom Short, solicitor at Leigh Day, said: “Our client argues that the 2019 General Licences GL04-6 are unlawful as Natural England has no power to issue the licences for the simple fact that it failed to comply with the condition precedent under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981. This condition states that before issuing these licences Natural England – and not any other body or person – has to be satisfied that there are no alternative solutions to killing wild birds. Natural England has not done that. It has instead told licence users that they must themselves decide whether alternative solutions are ineffective or impracticable. Wild Justice, and its many supporters, believe this is a travesty for wildlife protection in the UK and our client intends to vigorously challenge it.” It would seem that NE's legal council has taken the view that NE are on sticky ground and the method of licensing needs to be addressed and altered to comply with the WCA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 Does anyone know the official farmers response. NFU .. surely they will need to apply for the actual licence [after having spent many hours trying to scare away the birds..] Farmers tend to get listened too by the gov ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 http://chng.it/jmtGjDwkXr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 Retaliation petition against Packham has started.... link shared on a fresh topic in this section... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the enigma Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, islandgun said: Does anyone know the official farmers response. NFU .. surely they will need to apply for the actual licence [after having spent many hours trying to scare away the birds..] Farmers tend to get listened too by the gov ! Really??? The NFU are as useless as BASC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 https://www.change.org/p/bbc-bbc-to-sack-chris-packham Unsure if this has been put here yet, already cloae to 10k sigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul sullivan Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 9400 signatures already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, Smokersmith said: Retaliation petition against Packham has started.... link shared on a fresh topic in this section. Well I signed it & also donated a few quid. I cannot abide the condescending, self opinionated little twerp. I bought his bird spotters guide and found he is no David Attenborough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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