ditchman Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) truly awful ...........just been watching the take off "what on earth suddenly made that plane nose dive when it was 50ft off the ground on take off......................." ? Edited May 6, 2019 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) Not seen all the angles or videos of this incident. Early reports of a lightning strike could have caused several linked failures. My initial hypothesis is that they had a failure of the slat/flaps hence what appears on the video to be a high approach speed. What happens next appears to be a ‘balloon/bounce’ and instead of the standard ‘go around’ recovery it appears they ‘kept with it’ and suffered a tail strike, which was of such magnitude that the tail section suffered deformation/destructions or a gear failure? As a result of hydraulic fluid for the Control surfaces and fuel lines to the APU ( as part of whatever failure, this might have been running and drawing fuel) then the result was the fire seen. Maybe the belly was crippled even further forward, thus engine pylons affected with fuel tanks above.( see above reference to gear failure too) The structural failure limit of the type that I fly is certified just under 3G ( although the actual ‘tested’ limit is much greater), have had a CoPilot slam it down and produce an ACARS message with associated print out of 2.68g - nice Engineer inspection required 🙂 That just my instant thought, but as is everything, info will trickle out and the armchair experts will throw their tuppence in. Either way, a tragic outcome of what we all come to assume is a routine form of transport. Edited May 6, 2019 by Jaymo Forgot something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Jaymo said: Not seen all the angles or videos of this incident. Early reports of a lightning strike could have caused several linked failures. My initial hypothesis is that they had a failure of the slat/flaps hence what appears on the video to be a high approach speed. What happens next appears to be a ‘balloon/bounce’ and instead of the standard ‘go around’ recovery it appears they ‘kept with it’ and suffered a tail strike, which was of such magnitude that the tail section suffered deformation/destructions As a result of hydraulic fluid for the Control surfaces and fuel lines to the APU ( as part of whatever failure, this might have been running and drawing fuel) then the result was the fire seen. Maybe the belly was crippled even further forward, thus engine pylons affected with fuel tanks above. The structural failure limit of the type that I fly is certified just under 3G ( although the actual ‘tested’ limit is much greater), have had a CoPilot slam it down and produce an ACARS message with associated print out of 2.68g - nice Engineer inspection required 🙂 That just my instant thought, but as is everything, info will trickle out and the armchair experts will throw their tuppence in. Either way, a tragic outcome of what we all come to assume is a routine form of transport. The accident was truly horrific and it was amazing that so many people survived, in reply to your comments about G, "you bend 'em, we mend 'em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyefor Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: The accident was truly horrific and it was amazing that so many people survived.... ...might have been more if selfish idiots didn't insist on taking their hand luggage with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted May 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 it was a well executed evack'................55secs........all out......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 hour ago, ditchman said: it was a well executed evack'................55secs........all out......... Apart from the 41 who died Anyone notice how many survivors had their hand baggage with them as they walked across the tarmac! Incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Heard about that baggage thing, I'd be punching people out of my way if that was how it really happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbriar Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 The loss of life is very sad, but the pilot can justifiably put "cool under pressure" on his CV ! He, and the cabin crew, doubtless saved many lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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