Dave-G Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 29 years might be a worthwhile deterent https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7006597/Two-men-gun-making-factory-jailed-nearly-30-years.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Makes a pleasant change for sensible sentences to be handed down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 The old boy who actually made them is dead and buried. A good result but watch some tree hugger come up in about 8 or 10yrs and say how they have mended there ways, found god or some other excuse to let them out, like the heap of garbage they have just managed to arrest ...eventually... for all the rapes and assaults, he was let out on license. The rule should be DO THE CRIME, DO THE TIME. It would solve knife and gun crime almost overnight if the minimum set sentence for carrying either when committing a crime was 25yrs with some special basic prisons built to house them. When hanging was still in, criminals shied away from taking part in a crime if they knew one of the team was carrying a gun because they knew they would hang as well...... remember Christie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Walker570 said: The old boy who actually made them is dead and buried. A good result but watch some tree hugger come up in about 8 or 10yrs and say how they have mended there ways, found god or some other excuse to let them out, like the heap of garbage they have just managed to arrest ...eventually... for all the rapes and assaults, he was let out on license. The rule should be DO THE CRIME, DO THE TIME. It would solve knife and gun crime almost overnight if the minimum set sentence for carrying either when committing a crime was 25yrs with some special basic prisons built to house them. When hanging was still in, criminals shied away from taking part in a crime if they knew one of the team was carrying a gun because they knew they would hang as well...... remember Christie? No, but I am sure you do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Yep, him and his mate were breaking and entering and caught by police on the roof, if I remember correctly his mate shot and killed a police officer and they were both dangled. Big karfuffle even back then from the huggers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Walker570 said: Yep, him and his mate were breaking and entering and caught by police on the roof, if I remember correctly his mate shot and killed a police officer and they were both dangled. Big karfuffle even back then from the huggers. Don't you mean Bentley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 They deserve 29 years for the rubbish bluing and non chequered grips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Just testing...just testing Yes, I was wrong it was Bentley, thanks Scully go to the front of the class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Define, "let him have it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Walker570 said: Just testing...just testing Yes, I was wrong it was Bentley, thanks Scully go to the front of the class Don't tell him your name Pike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Bentley was hang but Craig who actually fired the shots didn't as he was under age, he was 16 and 18 was the magic number for hanging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) Corrected again, thank you. However the point is made. At least he didn't get let out later like this McCann bloke to rape and assault women almost at leisure. Edited May 9, 2019 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, wymberley said: Define, "let him have it". Well, that was the BIG question wasn't it? In hindsight at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy1950 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) John Christie was hanged at Pentonville Prison in 1953 for the murder of 8 people. The film 10 Rillington Place was a drama/ documentary on his crimes. It is because of a major miscarriage of justice in this case when Christie gave prosecution evidence against Timothy Evans, that he was hanged in 1950. This eventually led to the suspension of capital punishment for murder in 1965 and a posthumous pardon for Evans in 1966. As for the gun makers I hope they get what they deserve inside. Problem is as I see it the Police have no idea just how many of their guns have reached the streets? Edited May 9, 2019 by Flyboy1950 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K85 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Are these 3 idiots britans last gun makers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotgcoalman Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Looking at the pics I thought it was the new Hatsan factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Just now, gotgcoalman said: Looking at the pics I thought it was the new Hatsan factory. You only joined PW recently, it's like you've been here for YEARS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Walker570 said: The old boy who actually made them is dead and buried. A good result but watch some tree hugger come up in about 8 or 10yrs and say how they have mended there ways, found god or some other excuse to let them out, like the heap of garbage they have just managed to arrest ...eventually... for all the rapes and assaults, he was let out on license. The rule should be DO THE CRIME, DO THE TIME. It would solve knife and gun crime almost overnight if the minimum set sentence for carrying either when committing a crime was 25yrs with some special basic prisons built to house them. When hanging was still in, criminals shied away from taking part in a crime if they knew one of the team was carrying a gun because they knew they would hang as well...... remember Christie? Now he is dead, does that make him 'Corpus Christie'. Good old BBC in their 'Watchdog' programme last night were putting the blame for knife crime on the retailers who sold some knives to under 18's in test purchases. I am sure the local supermarkets must be full of teenagers queuing up to buy a knife for their night out ? Of course the switched on teen would simply take one from his home kitchen on his way out. Until we start handing out realistic sentences for their crimes, the kids are just having a laugh. In 2 recent TV programmes about assaults on Police Officers, around 6 cases went to Court, not ONE of those convicted received custodial sentences. 86 Police Officers assaulted so far this year in Merseyside alone ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 I used to have the job fairly frequently of taking young offenders from court to Borstal and it was amusing to see the look on these young 'toughies' faces when they arrived in reception. Spoke to one or two on their release back on to my patch and they swore never to go back. It sorted 4 out of every 5. Nothing is perfect. Now they have to have cells with no bars on the windows and all mod cons and entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 And Albert Pierpoint hung em all! Christie, Evans and Bentley! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K85 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, Walker570 said: I used to have the job fairly frequently of taking young offenders from court to Borstal and it was amusing to see the look on these young 'toughies' faces when they arrived in reception. Spoke to one or two on their release back on to my patch and they swore never to go back. It sorted 4 out of every 5. Nothing is perfect. Now they have to have cells with no bars on the windows and all mod cons and entertainment. Im working in the green in birmingham as a contractor at the moment. There lives in there are a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 On 09/05/2019 at 19:58, gotgcoalman said: Looking at the pics I thought it was the new Hatsan factory. lol 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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