Things to come?

[pigeon controller]

1 hour ago, lancer425 said:

Is this the same tech  PC.

 

 

This mini was the old Austin , and thirty odd years ago.

3 hours ago, old'un said:

Your helping to save the planet.

OK , I don't mind a thirty minute recharge.

What about the huge amount of HGVs travelling on the same route from Turkey etc bringing the avacardos to the masses?????

[old'un]

3 hours ago, pigeon controller said:

This mini was the old Austin , and thirty odd years ago.

OK , I don't mind a thirty minute recharge.

What about the huge amount of HGVs travelling on the same route from Turkey etc bringing the avacardos to the masses?????

I think my attempts at sarcastic humour are about the same as your.

[pigeon controller]

3 hours ago, old'un said:

I think my attempts at sarcastic humour are about the same as your.

No problem

[old'un]

34 minutes ago, pigeon controller said:

No problem

That’s ok… I am not a great believer in some of the theories put forward for global warming, hence the “Your helping to save the planet”

[Dibble]

Colleagues  who have chosen Outlander PHEVs are slightly peed off that the government has increased the amount of tax they pay. As the tax take falls they will keep changing the rules!

I'm a bit stuck at the moment, I have to get a new car in November and could pay between 1,700 and 6,000 pounds Company Car tax in 2020 depending on my choice.

But we lease for 4 years and the Govt. won't say what the tax regime will be in 2023 leaving me guessing if it's worth paying a considerably higher lease for a Plug-in Hybrid to get lower tax.

I'm guessing and this is pure speculation that I'm going to get shafted whatever I choose.

[mick miller]

In ten years time, ev vehicles will be viewed for what they are: expensive, impractical, environmentally damaging but useful in a handful of scenarios. 

The future isn't ev guys. 

[Pistol p]

I saw in Holland earlier this year where there was a BMW i8 smoking in one of their showrooms. The response was to push it out side where the Dutch fire brigade used a crane to submerge it into a huge roll off skip of water. It was left there for 24 hours until deemed safe. Which was nice.

[oowee]

Some of the first cars were electric. Nissan have the change from electric to Hydrogen 2040 onwards. 

https://www.nissan-global.com/EN/ENVIRONMENT/CAR/ENVIRONMENTAL_CONSIDERATION/

Edited June 1, 2019 by oowee

[JohnfromUK]

As I understand it - the main problem with hydrogen is that it is difficult to store in bulk, requiring immensely high pressure - and so the tanks are very heavy for their capacity.  I don't know if this can be eased by using some form of catalyst in the tank?

The problem with electricity is how much is needed to replace petrol and diesel used in road vehicles.  The UK currently uses about 46 billion litres of road fuel per annum.  Each litre is about 10 KWh of electricity.  So if all road transport moved to electricity, that is a demand for 460 billion KWh of energy.  It is suggested that an extra 18GW of generating capacity is needed (current capacity maxed out is about 60GW), so about 30% extra ....... and that is for CARS - not all transport.

Then if homes are to have electric heating (by heat pumps rather than directly) replacing gas, that is another say 10KW per house, or for say 10 million houses ......... and that is very conservative.

It all becomes a little impractical.  We have nowhere near enough generating capacity.  We have nowhere near enough transmission capacity.  It won't work along the lines of everyone having electric cars and heating/cooking without MASSIVE investment that needs to start now.

[neutron619]

You lot should look up a company called ITM Power and see what they're doing. They seem to have a lot of very interesting answers to many of the problems you're discussing above.

[JohnfromUK]

8 hours ago, neutron619 said:

You lot should look up a company called ITM Power and see what they're doing. They seem to have a lot of very interesting answers to many of the problems you're discussing above.

Interesting.

[islandgun]

A bit off topic, but ive just bought a bio diesel processor for my old landcruiser.. [having run a shogun and landcruiser on bio diesel before]. recycled veg derived fuel at low cost with very little emissions 

[Raja Clavata]

Sorry to be pedantic but the future is very much EV, that's a certainty, the debate is about whether it's battery, hydrogen or other type of fuel cell which provides the power source to drive the electric motors.