kennett Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 This couldn't have been timed much better, and unusual to see the BBC showing a balanced argument! BBC News - Compassionate conservation is 'seriously flawed'https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48315709 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 At last - someone can see the elephant in the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 1 hour ago, kennett said: This couldn't have been timed much better, and unusual to see the BBC showing a balanced argument! BBC News - Compassionate conservation is 'seriously flawed'https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48315709 Its all just common sense isnt it ? good article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 Not common sense surely, must diary it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 Unfortunately common sense is overruled in many case these days by individual opinions and idealistic beliefs. And these are forced on the public, by over opinionated jumped up celebrities that are obviously in their world, holier than though. And because of their celeb status and the gullible I'll informed joe public do gooders it grows and festers into what it has become in this century ROT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, holloway said: Its all just common sense isnt it ? good article. Yes, many things are. I was pleased to read and totally agree with the suggestion that we should be careful of inflicting the opinion and morals of affluent societies on those less fortunate societies and it’s people’s, and the situations they find themselves in. Our so called ‘do gooders’ could benefit from reading the article, as it can also equally apply to the moral high ground the urban set applies to those of us who live rurally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 It's just simply 'real' conservation......... not the distorted protectionist claptrap you get from the Packhams of this world! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 1 minute ago, panoma1 said: It's just simply 'real' conservation......... not the distorted protectionist claptrap you get from the Packhams of this world! Surely it's more BBC bias? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 Compassionate conservationists, animal protectionists, advocates of rewilding..........are all misnomers for real conservationists 16 minutes ago, oowee said: Surely it's more BBC bias? They probably didn't understand what they were reporting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, panoma1 said: Compassionate conservationists, animal protectionists, advocates of rewilding..........are all misnomers for real conservationists They probably didn't understand what they were reporting? lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted May 19, 2019 Report Share Posted May 19, 2019 But the big problem that no one wants to mention and which screws up all attempts to right the wrongs is our massive, expanding population - from 3.8bn to 7.6bn in 40 yrs. This gets mentioned from time to time but no one then expands on the fallout ie we don't just give birth and dig a hole and live in the wild we concrete over the countryside; we buy cars; we build millions of miles of roads; we need doctors, hospitals, planes and airports etc etc etc. We are hugely greedy and nature is displaced. Enjoy what little bit of nature you have because future generations may not have any! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 19, 2019 Report Share Posted May 19, 2019 19 hours ago, Scully said: Yes, many things are. I was pleased to read and totally agree with the suggestion that we should be careful of inflicting the opinion and morals of affluent societies on those less fortunate societies and it’s people’s, and the situations they find themselves in. Our so called ‘do gooders’ could benefit from reading the article, as it can also equally apply to the moral high ground the urban set applies to those of us who live rurally. Being an old un I have come to see that "do gooders" can never stop trying to force others to comply with their view. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted May 19, 2019 Report Share Posted May 19, 2019 12 hours ago, norfolk dumpling said: But the big problem that no one wants to mention and which screws up all attempts to right the wrongs is our massive, expanding population - from 3.8bn to 7.6bn in 40 yrs. This gets mentioned from time to time but no one then expands on the fallout ie we don't just give birth and dig a hole and live in the wild we concrete over the countryside; we buy cars; we build millions of miles of roads; we need doctors, hospitals, planes and airports etc etc etc. We are hugely greedy and nature is displaced. Enjoy what little bit of nature you have because future generations may not have any! And that sir is the reason for so called 'climate change' The massive growth in population is attributed in the main to the poorest areas of the world, but nobody wants to be the one to tell them to rein it in a bit. Did you know the average human being expels 1kg of Co2 every day, that's 7.7m tonnes of Co2 going into the atmosphere EVERY DAY. You'd have to plant an awful lot of trees to offset that amount!! There is an organisation dedicated to discussion and solutions to the population problem. It's called 'Population Matters' and it's patron is none other than Sir David Attenborough, although you probably wouldn't have heard too much about it as it doesn't fit with the political climate agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) Not worried one bit about all of this carp, Nature and evolution will sort it all out eventually. Possibly to the dismay of all, mass extinction, again? Edited May 20, 2019 by old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 Population explosion is the 'monkey (or elephant) in the room' and I despair when I hear of the latest rewilding proposition which will almost certainly create division and acrimony wherever it may hit us. 60 pairs of sea eagles on the Isle of Wight(? I was only half awake) was proposed by some guy on Countryfile with the hope these will expand to join with European eagles and populate the South of England and other European countries. So this will screw up sheep farming although is this all part of the move to ruduce meat consumption and make us all vegan? I worry for my grandchildren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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