Saltings Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, redial said: It just wouldn't work in this day and age. No respect for authority. against their human rights , 30yrs ago in Ireland you did two weeks work in the community to get a months dole /cleaning litter /graffiti/cutting grass in graveyards and repairing headstones etc/ painting old dears housed /cleaning rivers and canals/repairing heritage derelict churches etc and were happy to do the work as not receiving a handout how times have changed now they aspire to be drug dealers if not playing Xbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 I am sorry to say we are now in the second if not third generation of benefit parasites, it is bred in them to know when they are old enough, those nice people will give them money every week. If they are lucky enough to be female and pop a sprog they will give them a house too. Thats my rant over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol p Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 At the age of 18 EVERY British citizen should have to do 2 years national service with either the police, fire or ambulance services. This way we would know that they existed due to NI payments, they would be competent in life saving skills and would respect themselves and others at a higher level. Alternatively we could just keep encouraging them to shuffle around the streets in tracksuits, starring at phones whilst worshipping kickball men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 a bloke I know did 2yrs NS and when he came out he said he was never going to let anyone tell what to do again , he became a credentiled shopsteward and went from contruction sites and engineering projects for most of his working life ! so conscription did him no arm ! DD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Yeah, being in the services really works for everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 I wouldn't want any of my kids serving for the likes of this government or any other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, Scully said: I wouldn't want any of my kids serving for the likes of this government or any other. Now that is an extremely good point. I was thinking to myself, get the little scraps in the forces. That’ll sort them out! Etc etc but then, I can totally see scully’s point. I wouldn’t want the muppets in parliament making decisions about the life etc of my kids. Not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, Scully said: I wouldn't want any of my kids serving for the likes of this government or any other. My Son is A Cpl in the Army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, welsh1 said: My Son is A Cpl in the Army. I'm not sure what point it is you're making, but I'm certain he wasn't conscripted as those who did National Service were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy1950 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 FWIW I would not want to bring National Service back again. I would want a professional soldier (who had volunteered for the Queens shilling) to be watching my back in the event of something nasty going on, not some chav who would possibly duck and run at the first sign of trouble. Leave Nat Service as a foot note to History. I agree that the scrotes need something to pay for their benefits but the amount of monies that the Government would spend setting it all up it would probably over run like all the other projects going through the mill, like HS2, Cross Rail, Electrification of the railways to the East coast. I am sure we could all think of cost over run projects with out to much trouble, with out up up setting the Chavs watching Sky. We need an orchard of money trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 43 minutes ago, Flyboy1950 said: FWIW I would not want to bring National Service back again. I would want a professional soldier (who had volunteered for the Queens shilling) to be watching my back in the event of something nasty going on This. It's usually people who’ve no military experience who are in favour of national service, and it's (almost), universally considered a bad idea by professional armed forces personnel. That’s the main reason it was abolished in the UK too, as it was, in effect a glorified youth training scheme. My father, now 81, was one of the last intakes to have to do National service in the RAF. He, like a lot of people couldn’t wait to leave, and needed to earn ‘decent’ money as at the time he had a young family to support (my older half-brothers, I'm not that old). Conscription is slowly being abolished across the countries where it’s still a requirement. By the way, the conscientious objectors and the medically unfit usually have the option of joining some kind of ‘civil defence’ organisation. This consists of things like marshalling at public events, helping during flooding or other natural disasters etc… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 21 hours ago, B725 said: As a thought regarding Washerboys post regarding drug culture why not send those who haven't got a job or no intension of getting a job do 2 year's national service. That's a frightening thought. 1 hour ago, Flyboy1950 said: FWIW I would not want to bring National Service back again. I would want a professional soldier (who had volunteered for the Queens shilling) to be watching my back in the event of something nasty going on, not some chav who would possibly duck and run at the first sign of trouble. Leave Nat Service as a foot note to History. I agree that the scrotes need something to pay for their benefits but the amount of monies that the Government would spend setting it all up it would probably over run like all the other projects going through the mill, like HS2, Cross Rail, Electrification of the railways to the East coast. I am sure we could all think of cost over run projects with out to much trouble, with out up up setting the Chavs watching Sky. We need an orchard of money trees. Jezza seems to have one bud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy1950 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, old man said: Jezza seems to have one bud? Jezza needs a good shaking, not to make the money tree shed it`s load, but to wake him up! Man`s in a dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Flyboy1950 said: Jezza needs a good shaking, not to make the money tree shed it`s load, but to wake him up! Man`s in a dream. More nightmarish to me bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy1950 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, old man said: More nightmarish to me bud. Aye, dream to him, nightmare to the rest of us sane people, (though I,m not so sure of you?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Flyboy1950 said: Aye, dream to him, nightmare to the rest of us sane people, (though I,m not so sure of you?) You have made me like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arm3000gt Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 18 hours ago, Newbie to this said: That's all well and good in theory. But what about the people who are employed to pick up litter or sweep the roads. You would be putting decent working people out of work. I can see where you are coming from but when was the last time you walked or drove somewhere? Did on that journey did you note rubbish in a hedge row, a grass verge or path overgrown? There aren't enough people employed to keep up with what is required to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Shouldn't need to be done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arm3000gt Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, henry d said: Shouldn't need to be done Absolutely correct, but we are where we are. Can't pretend the issue doesn't exist. Just need a government with enough strength to do something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Scully said: I'm not sure what point it is you're making, but I'm certain he wasn't conscripted as those who did National Service were. Just replying to your comment about not wanting one of your kids in the military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, welsh1 said: Just replying to your comment about not wanting one of your kids in the military. It’s their choice of course, but I’d do my best to change their minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Quote Surely a simpler option is community service not national service. If you are not employed and have no reason not to be e.g. disability, you are required to do for example 16 hours community service per week. Litter picking, path clearing etc, in return you get your benefits. Wouldn't work, & didn't when the only cow that didn't give milk (Thatcher) tried it in the 80's. It was called the "extra tenner", you had to work 2 days one week, 3 days the next week, 8 hrs a day for an extra £10 a week. Out of that you had to make your own way to wherever the jobs were at the time, always bus fare & supply your food workclothes etc, all this always came to more than the extra £10 you were given so you were always out of pocket, excellent incentive, only Tories could think of a scheme like this, akin to their Universal Credit today. Another point, this day & age many don't sign on because of the defunk UC problems, a body count that's not taken into consideration at Westminster, crime pays & it's a lot easier than conforming to the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Scully said: It’s their choice of course, but I’d do my best to change their minds. Bit late now he's been there 5 years😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandytommo Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 On 05/06/2019 at 18:58, Yellow Bear said: It does not have to be military service, however you will probably find the snowflakes will say It contravenes their 'uman rights to be made to work for the good of the nation. On 05/06/2019 at 19:24, TIGHTCHOKE said: Pity the poor **** who have to babysit the useless wasters! Yep agree!!. Parents of the scumbags need to be held to account too, many absolve themselves of their responsibilities by scapegoating immigrants, politicians and so on for their useless offspring's lack of gumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, welsh1 said: Bit late now he's been there 5 years😂 Mates just retired after joining in 1976! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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