old man Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 FWIW, I had the misfortune to see the Director General of the Biased Broadcaster spouting what programs would have to be cut if the continued to bear the cost of the oldies licences, He should be either on stage or in parliament, the emotive dross spouted. Never a mention of the disgracefully over inflated wage packets handed around like confetti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 Apparantly the BBC purchased (if I heard correctly?) 37,000 copies of the Guardian newspaper last year! Purchasing a socialist, anti shooting rag with public money! Bias? What bias? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 2 hours ago, scutt said: I think we are being steered in the wrong direction to blame the gov .The management of the BBC is the elephant in the room. Correct. The BBC spends money like water - overpaid 'stars', fancy sets, £1 Billion of a refurbish of their headquarters, £87 Million on a new set for Eastenders, £34 million on taxis, £1.7 million to Gary Lineker, £1.7 million to Chris Evans, 94 'managers' on over £150,000 a years each, £98 million on a 'Digital Media Initiative' that was never used and scrapped, £36 million on golden handshakes. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7130127/British-Bloated-Corporation.html The thing about money is that if you don't have to work hard to earn it - you don't appreciate its value. The BBC, who gets it's money 'spoon fed' by captive license payers splashes it about with no consideration about getting 'value' for what they spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 I don't pay it, **** the BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 11 hours ago, eddoakley said: I'm a little confused here (and with other references to the same thing)... What is the cost of "funding free tv for over 75s"? They don't give them money, they just don't take it from them. Possibly something in admin but that's only the same as if they were charging so it's not a cost to the BBC, it's just less income and they get more than enough of that as it is. I don't watch much tv at all and would happily never watch anything BBC again if it meant that the tax forced upon everyone could be scrapped. Edd Absolutely! The BBC decides how much money they want then applies their legal powers to extract it from the viewing public who have to either pay up or break the law. And it wasn't any different when the government stumped up a proportion of the levy. Whilst there is a legal framework for determining and administering the levy, the BBC itself is the relevant licensing authority which means that we all get royally screwed by them. When I reach 75 I will most definitely not pay the levy and I might well stop sooner on principle. The only things we ever watch are available on catch up so I might even take down the aerial as well. And if the licensing nazis come after me they will be told which sunless part of their anatomy they can put their demand in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, panoma1 said: Apparantly the BBC purchased (if I heard correctly?) 37,000 copies of the Guardian newspaper last year! Purchasing a socialist, anti shooting rag with public money! Bias? What bias? Put into perspective, that’s only 100 copies per day spread around all of their locations, be it ‘on location’ or studios and dressing rooms.- did they also acquire ‘other’ publications? What we must / should appreciate, is that just because we see the Guardian as a Socialist Antrim shooting paper- so do many others see it in the polar opposite, just because were ‘pro shooting/hunting’ , doesn’t mean the rest of the populace is! Is it also “Public Money”, revenue generated from the BBC is not “Public Money” and they, like any other Government type establishment, able to purchase as they wish! Would you like every single business in the UK to only purchase one type of sandwich/ tea bag/ car/ paper clip/ bottled water/ desk ( oh the list goes on) - Welcome ‘Comrade’ Edited June 12, 2019 by Jaymo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 Petition to scrap the Licence fee. It can't hurt to sign it. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/235653 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartyboy Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Muddy Funker said: I don't pay it, **** the BBC. And that is the answer. To all who moan about the BBC, stop paying for the license and funding all that's wrong with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, panoma1 said: Apparantly the BBC purchased (if I heard correctly?) 37,000 copies of the Guardian newspaper last year! Purchasing a socialist, anti shooting rag with public money! Bias? What bias? Quote First, the facts – as revealed in a freedom of information request: between 1 April 2010 and 28 February 2011, the BBC bought 59,829 copies of the Guardian compared with 51,384 copies of the Times and 48,968 copies of the Daily Telegraph. The Daily Mail came in fourth (45,553) and the Financial Times was eighth (33,721). Something to temper the argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, stuartyboy said: And that is the answer. To all who moan about the BBC, stop paying for the license and funding all that's wrong with it. My guess would be that most people (not all, but most) legally need a license; there is some information here https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/tv-licence/ I both watch real time and (occasionally) use iPlayer for catch up, so need (and have) a license. Edited June 12, 2019 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 I didn’t have license ( didn’t have a tv!) when living on my own, but OH likes iplayer ( as do I if I’m honest ) but think I’d do without if on my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Jaymo said: Put into perspective, that’s only 100 copies per day spread around all of their locations, be it ‘on location’ or studios and dressing rooms.- did they also acquire ‘other’ publications? What we must / should appreciate, is that just because we see the Guardian as a Socialist Antrim shooting paper- so do many others see it in the polar opposite, just because were ‘pro shooting/hunting’ , doesn’t mean the rest of the populace is! Is it also “Public Money”, revenue generated from the BBC is not “Public Money” and they, like any other Government type establishment, able to purchase as they wish! Would you like every single business in the UK to only purchase one type of sandwich/ tea bag/ car/ paper clip/ bottled water/ desk ( oh the list goes on) - Welcome ‘Comrade’ Who's money pays the legally required licence fee to the BBC, If not the publics?......but perhaps publicly financed would have been a better expression? And I could not imagine anyone seeing the Guardian as the "polar opposite" of a socialist, anti-shooting newspaper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diver One Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, henry d said: Something to temper the argument I have just read that and at the bottom of the page the Guardian are begging for a £1 donation to keep them going!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, Diver One said: I have just read that and at the bottom of the page the Guardian are begging for a £1 donation to keep them going!! That's probably because the BBC is their only customer.😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Westward said: That's probably because the BBC is their only customer.😜 No, Channel 4 used to, and most likely still do, get a healthy stack of 'em every day. Far more than any other paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Penelope said: No, Channel 4 used to, and most likely still do, get a healthy stack of 'em every day. Far more than any other paper. Why doesn't that surprise me. Ch 4 is more lefty biased than the BBC - if that's possible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 4 hours ago, panoma1 said: Who's money pays the legally required licence fee to the BBC, If not the publics?......but perhaps publicly financed would have been a better expression? And I could not imagine anyone seeing the Guardian as the "polar opposite" of a socialist, anti-shooting newspaper! Check HenryD’s reply Merely showing that you can make a statement to support an argument, but that argument only holds if ‘All’ the facts are utilised. Much the same as ‘both’ sides of the Brexit argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 4 hours ago, panoma1 said: Who's money pays the legally required licence fee to the BBC, If not the publics?......but perhaps publicly financed would have been a better expression? And I could not imagine anyone seeing the Guardian as the "polar opposite" of a socialist, anti-shooting newspaper! 3 minutes ago, Jaymo said: Check HenryD’s reply Merely showing that you can make a statement to support an argument, but that argument only holds if ‘All’ the facts are utilised. Much the same as ‘both’ sides of the Brexit argument How does henryd's posting relate to the questions (directed to, but unanswered by yourself) asked in my posting......as quoted above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Scarer Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 Great stuff, last week we were thanking all the old soldiers for what they did for the country in the War, this week its decided to take away their T.V. licence, What shall we do next week take away their bus passes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 hello, BBC NEWS FLASH, BBC presenter Mr Ben Fogle has stated, i will give up a years salary to help the over 75s get a licence, what i could not find was how much ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 6 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, BBC NEWS FLASH, BBC presenter Mr Ben Fogle has stated, i will give up a years salary to help the over 75s get a licence, what i could not find was how much ?????? He didn’t appear in the BBC list last year which would indicate that his “fee” for the Animal Park series is less than £150k - still very noble of him to do so though. Fortunately for Ben, this one series isn’t his only source of income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Jaymo said: He didn’t appear in the BBC list last year which would indicate that his “fee” for the Animal Park series is less than £150k - still very noble of him to do so though. Fortunately for Ben, this one series isn’t his only source of income. hello, i wonder if any more high paid BBC presenters will follow his idea, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i wonder if any more high paid BBC presenters will follow his idea, I would not hold your breath! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Jaymo said: He didn’t appear in the BBC list last year which would indicate that his “fee” for the Animal Park series is less than £150k - still very noble of him to do so though. Fortunately for Ben, this one series isn’t his only source of income. hello, he was just on SKY news, seems most sincere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted June 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Just read the above article in todays E D P , don't know much about the chap but he seems to come over as a top guy and hopefully some of the other top earners in the B B C will follow suit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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