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Anyone reload for pistols back in the day?

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I'm looking into loading a low(er) energy 115gr sub sonic load in 9x19.

Did anyone down load for pistols back in the day that can give me some pointer and any pitfalls?

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People didn't really do reduced loads for 9mm because you needed to cycle the action reliably. 

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The action not cycling the isn't a problem for me its more of an advantage 

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Hi I reloaded 9mm but found it better to go for cheap factory berdan primer loads (we are talking nearly 40 years ago)

issues i found for reloading were getting consistent OAL; consistent  casting of bullet heads. I never went subsonic and found a load (cant remember details) that functioned for me H&K PS9 and didn't change  

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gdadphil

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26 minutes ago, gdadphil said:

Hi I reloaded 9mm but found it better to go for cheap factory berdan primer loads (we are talking nearly 40 years ago)

issues i found for reloading were getting consistent OAL; consistent  casting of bullet heads. I never went subsonic and found a load (cant remember details) that functioned for me H&K PS9 and didn't change  

regards

gdadphil

me too...........i used mostly aluminium cased IMI stuff for my 9mm...far more consistant

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Had a play with 147gr plated  and bullseye loads out of my  Browning hi power  and if i  remember correctly it was using 3.2 grains and    chrono was about 950 fps and cycled the action reasonably reliably.

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44 minutes ago, gdadphil said:

Hi I reloaded 9mm but found it better to go for cheap factory berdan primer loads (we are talking nearly 40 years ago)

issues i found for reloading were getting consistent OAL; consistent  casting of bullet heads. I never went subsonic and found a load (cant remember details) that functioned for me H&K PS9 and didn't change  

regards

gdadphil

S&B rounds were as cheap as reloads and stunningly accurate and reliable . Used to come in boxes of 25s as I recall  

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2 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

S&B rounds were as cheap as reloads and stunningly accurate and reliable . Used to come in boxes of 25s as I recall  

Yes square boxes of 25 with a red laquer sealing ring between case and bullet.

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Yes as Best I can remember 147 grain full metal jacketed bullets great through the moderated smg not silent but very quiet.To be honest can’t recall using them in a self loading pistol .They were issue fodder and Brendan primed. Have you tried the cast boolits site they have a wealth of knowledge. If memory serves me correctly Mountain and Souden? Silver box vague memories of 115 grain hard cast cartridges. Sad how your memory fades!

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I  used to order the 174 grain 303 bullets  and silvalube .455 bullets from M&S , Also remember a big lot of Israeli 147 smg ammo  coming  onto the market   the club purchase d 2-3 thousand  as it was cheap and the members of the club using it in the pistols   ,Glocks ,star  Etc  and it put a lot of new members off of using and buying a 9mm handgun i  also remember an incident where a members wife  used it in a Glock 17  she never recovered from the flinch  she  developed because of it and could not even use a 22 pistol without ploughing the grass in front of the target.

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7 hours ago, Andy H said:

I  used to order the 174 grain 303 bullets  and silvalube .455 bullets from M&S , Also remember a big lot of Israeli 147 smg ammo  coming  onto the market   the club purchase d 2-3 thousand  as it was cheap and the members of the club using it in the pistols   ,Glocks ,star  Etc  and it put a lot of new members off of using and buying a 9mm handgun i  also remember an incident where a members wife  used it in a Glock 17  she never recovered from the flinch  she  developed because of it and could not even use a 22 pistol without ploughing the grass in front of the target.

Yes I remember that Israeli 9mm ammo, the cases were bulged after firing it was that hot. Perfectly reloadable cases otherwise but they would jam in the resizing die.

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Nostalgia ....don’t wish to veer too far from the original posters question but I had a colt delta elite in the new then 10 mm .....bought some Norma factory rounds loaded mag . Chambered round obtained excellent sight picture BOOM ball of flame 🔥 cloud of smoke 💨 kick like a 🐎NO FRONT SIGHT.......it blew off with the recoil.... brand new pistol 🔫 ......gutted!! Flinch was an understatement. Sold it promptly.

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