wild justice newsletter

[JJsDad]

6 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said:

Even better if they refuse to admit him

Wouldnt have thought he is a BASC member, so he wont be getting in for free. If Mr Fake News himself;  `Cwistoper` Packham turned up he will probably end up in the lake, now that would make a good article for the BBC.

[panoma1]

I doubt that whited sepulchre has got the gonads to turn up? 

[Mightymariner]

In time the crowd funders will lose interest in Wild Justice, just as Extinction Rebellion will fade away.

It was a shame Packham was uninvited from the Game Fair. It would have been an ideal opportunity to debate the issues.

IMO. BASC would be well advised to spend some money on outside PR experts to help counter Wild Justice. While I find some BASC social media and other media OK, some of it is embarrassingly amateur.

[KB1]

24 minutes ago, Mightymariner said:

In time the crowd funders will lose interest in Wild Justice, just as Extinction Rebellion will fade away.

It was a shame Packham was uninvited from the Game Fair. It would have been an ideal opportunity to debate the issues.

IMO. BASC would be well advised to spend some money on outside PR experts to help counter Wild Justice. While I find some BASC social media and other media OK, some of it is embarrassingly amateur.

Totally agree👍

[islandgun]

31 minutes ago, KB1 said:

Totally agree👍

also agree with bringing in PR experts, very good idea

[bostonmick]

On 10/07/2019 at 16:33, old'un said:

Just been reading the EU’s directive on wild bird protection for all EU countries, as far as I can see the new GL is following the rules set by the EU, the only part where the new GL is in conflict with the EU directive is..

“They/members shall see in particular that the species to which hunting regulations apply are not hunted during their period of reproduction”

This I presume means summer.

 

If we are following the rules laid down by the EU directive then how can they challenge the new GL? Although there are a couple of points in Article 9 below that could be pushed home by WJ.

Cut and pasted from the EU directive.

Article 9

1. Member States may derogate from the provisions of Articles 5, 6, 7 and 8, where there is no other satisfactory solution, for the following reasons:

(a) - in the interests of public health and safety,

- in the interests of air safety,

- to prevent serious damage to crops, livestock, forests, fisheries and water,

- for the protection of flora and fauna;

(b) for the purposes of research and teaching, of re-population, of re-introduction and for the breeding necessary for these purposes;

(c) to permit, under strictly supervised conditions and on a selective basis, the capture, keeping or other judicious use of certain birds in small numbers.

2. The derogations must specify:

- the species which are subject to the derogations,

- the means, arrangements or methods authorized for capture or killing,

- the conditions of risk and the circumstances of time and place under which such derogations may be granted,

- the authority empowered to declare that the required conditions obtain and to decide what means, arrangements or methods may be used, within what limits and by whom,

- the controls which will be carried out.

3. Each year the Member States shall send a report to the Commission on the implementation of this Article.

4. On the basis of the information available to it, and in particular the information communicated to it pursuant to paragraph 3, the Commission shall at all times ensure that the consequences of these derogations are not incompatible with this Directive. It shall take appropriate steps to this end.

Of course when we leave the EU these rules no longer apply to the UK .

 

As far as I recall it has already gone through Parliament that after or if we leave the EU all the laws and rules will still apply here. 

[bostonmick]

On 10/07/2019 at 16:33, old'un said:

Just been reading the EU’s directive on wild bird protection for all EU countries, as far as I can see the new GL is following the rules set by the EU, the only part where the new GL is in conflict with the EU directive is..

“They/members shall see in particular that the species to which hunting regulations apply are not hunted during their period of reproduction”

This I presume means summer.

 

If we are following the rules laid down by the EU directive then how can they challenge the new GL? Although there are a couple of points in Article 9 below that could be pushed home by WJ.

Cut and pasted from the EU directive.

Article 9

1. Member States may derogate from the provisions of Articles 5, 6, 7 and 8, where there is no other satisfactory solution, for the following reasons:

(a) - in the interests of public health and safety,

- in the interests of air safety,

- to prevent serious damage to crops, livestock, forests, fisheries and water,

- for the protection of flora and fauna;

(b) for the purposes of research and teaching, of re-population, of re-introduction and for the breeding necessary for these purposes;

(c) to permit, under strictly supervised conditions and on a selective basis, the capture, keeping or other judicious use of certain birds in small numbers.

2. The derogations must specify:

- the species which are subject to the derogations,

- the means, arrangements or methods authorized for capture or killing,

- the conditions of risk and the circumstances of time and place under which such derogations may be granted,

- the authority empowered to declare that the required conditions obtain and to decide what means, arrangements or methods may be used, within what limits and by whom,

- the controls which will be carried out.

3. Each year the Member States shall send a report to the Commission on the implementation of this Article.

4. On the basis of the information available to it, and in particular the information communicated to it pursuant to paragraph 3, the Commission shall at all times ensure that the consequences of these derogations are not incompatible with this Directive. It shall take appropriate steps to this end.

Of course when we leave the EU these rules no longer apply to the UK .

 

As far as I recall it has already gone through Parliament that after or if we leave the EU all the laws and rules will still apply here. Now that w. J has put out their intentions for all to see perhaps our organisations will take heed before the event. Instead of the usual shining of the trousers sitting on their chairs ignoring the rest of the world.