20 g hushpower

[bumpy22]

Ok gentlemen what are using In your 20 g hushpower? Bought one a while back with some cartridges. have been using it more and more recently on some of my various permissions where noise is a concern

[Ultrastu]

I use nsi 32 grm no6 .or 32 grm  blackgold 

The extra weight  of the mod on gun absorbing the recoil of the potent loads.

Brilliant on crows. 

[Hammo]

Did you get the barrels cerakoted?

[bumpy22]

7 minutes ago, Hammo said:

Did you get the barrels cerakoted?

Not yet been using it loads though mate. Probably will get him to cerakoat it nearly got through them cartridges. Had 37 corvids this morning. 

You been out much?

Grant wants one now lol

Edited August 18, 2019 by bumpy22

[Ultrastu]

Is it a mosberg or the ou .? 

[Hammo]

15 minutes ago, bumpy22 said:

Not yet been using it loads though mate. Probably will get him to cerakoat it nearly got through them cartridges. Had 37 corvids this morning. 

You been out much?

Grant wants one now lol

You had a bargain there. Grant won't find one that cheap I bet.

Yeah been flat out, picked up some nice new ground. 7 charlies first visit to one farm. Not been shot over for a few years. They had lost half a dozen ducks night before my visit, so I am warmly welcomed anytime, good to make a nice first impression.

 

Edited August 18, 2019 by Hammo

[bumpy22]

1 hour ago, Hammo said:

You had a bargain there. Grant won't find one that cheap I bet.

Yeah been flat out, picked up some nice new ground. 7 charlies first visit to one farm. Not been shot over for a few years. They had lost half a dozen ducks night before my visit, so I am warmly welcomed anytime, good to make a nice first impression.

 

Top job 

[Guest cookoff013]

Make your own

[bumpy22]

1 hour ago, cookoff013 said:

Make your own

Make all my own cf ammo but was under the impression it was not worth the outlay for cartridges

[kenholland]

gamebore subsonic 30 g 5 's does it for me .

[Guest cookoff013]

With subsonic loading. You will make money and be better shells.

 

[Hammo]

When I was a nipper, used to use a Lee Loadall for 12 bore reloading, there must be a 20 bore version. I think you would save quite a bit of dough once set up.

Just looked - £70 on Amazon.

Edited August 19, 2019 by Hammo

[Guest cookoff013]

price it up. infact if you were to buy equivalent shells,  

in the first 1200shells it would have paid for itself (12gauge.).

 

plus no manufacturer makes 42g subsonics. letalone the fibre environmentaly friendly subsonics.

[figgy]

Mate used to buy subsonics for his but just went for standard carts said it made little difference through his drainpipe over and under gun.

[Guest cookoff013]

While it in the consept of your friends drainpipe.

Loading with big shot than the manufacturers is an advantage.

[figgy]

Cook I agree, slower bigger shot will do the job giving better patterns.

[Rimfireboy]

Eley high flyer( fibre wad are subsonic ) plastic aren’t.

[soulboy1957]

Make great 20g subsonics with a lee loadall, new primed fiocchi cases, Csb5, fibre wads and 28g of 5's, 

[captainhastings]

So when you make a subsonic is it just less powder to give it less umph ?

[Guest cookoff013]

19 hours ago, captainhastings said:

So when you make a subsonic is it just less powder to give it less umph ?

yeah to a point, its just less of a powder thats running quite high pressures already but with low speed. those high pressures keep the efficiency up even though there is less powder.

 

so for 12gauge  subsonic 42g lead loads, i use vectan A1.

vectan A1 is used for low pressure 1oz loads,

normal 1,1/8oz 1300fps loads

1400fps loads at higher pressures

and 1,1/4oz loads at 1200fps at higher pressures

and 1,1/2oz loads at middle-ish pressures and subsonic (about 1000fps- 1020fps), 

 

Edited September 20, 2019 by cookoff013
clarifying my non clarified ramblings. bread

[oowee]

Can anyone put any numbers to the cost of loading the 20g sub sonics? Bumpy and I are looking to go into production. 😁

[Guest cookoff013]

_fill in the gaps lads......

what size shell? 

£30 primers/k

xx wads

xx hulls

 lead-20kg is about £82 or about £74 depending on vendor.

i like lead 4s for subsonics. if it had been 12gauge, i`d have had 4 loads. 

[oowee]

Today i got to. Cases based on 8 uses (they say 10 but some will split and get lost) 1.69p

Overshot card 1.14p. Primer 3.7p. Fibre wad 2.7p. nitro card 1.8p. 28g no 6 shot 7.5p. powder  20g 5p. Total 23.5p each or £235a 1000. 

Compared to £245 for a 1000 24g no 7.5s

 

Some of the components could change but it would not change the price significantly unless my maths is wrong (more than possible 🙂 ) 

Prices from https://shotgunreloading.co.uk/

Based on 20g cases 100 at £13.5. 1000 overshot cards at £11.4. 1000 primers at £37.5. fibre wads 500 at £9. 10kg no 6 shot £37.5 powder 0.5 kg at £38.4.

[sitsinhedges]

Shame you don't live local to me. I used to reload for 20g subs a lot and I've got all the necessary components here cheaper than quoted.

Shame you don't live local to me. I used to reload for 20g subs a lot and I've got all the necessary components here cheaper than quoted.

[Guest cookoff013]

13 hours ago, oowee said:

Today i got to. Cases based on 8 uses (they say 10 but some will split and get lost) 1.69p

Overshot card 1.14p. Primer 3.7p. Fibre wad 2.7p. nitro card 1.8p. 28g no 6 shot 7.5p. powder  20g 5p. Total 23.5p each or £235a 1000. 

Compared to £245 for a 1000 24g no 7.5s

 

Some of the components could change but it would not change the price significantly unless my maths is wrong (more than possible 🙂 ) 

Prices from https://shotgunreloading.co.uk/

Based on 20g cases 100 at £13.5. 1000 overshot cards at £11.4. 1000 primers at £37.5. fibre wads 500 at £9. 10kg no 6 shot £37.5 powder 0.5 kg at £38.4.

were you to make a 24g subsonic it would even be cheaper. 

you are comparing 28gram homeloads vs 24g factory.

 

if you are really overly concerned at the lack of shot, dont be, most subs pattern way tighter than any other cartridge and they do this through any choke.