ShootingEgg Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) Are now on the Isle of White. Is this a good or bad thing.. 6 birds a year for 5 years will be released https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-49433490 Natural England said there was "no evidence" of eagles preying on lambs where they live alongside lowland sheep farms in Europe. Edited August 22, 2019 by ShootingEgg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemFandango Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 I think it's a good thing personally but time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Shredder. Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Would that be the same Natural England who if l recall cancelled all shooting within the country at the drop of a hat with “out evidence”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 https://www.nationalsheep.org.uk/news/27727/nsa-launches-uk-wide-survey-to-capture-farmer-views-on-sea-eagle-release/ Just put out. We have Sea and Golden Eagles here, [highest density in Europe of Golden.] Some crofters report that lambs are being taken and to be honest why wouldn't Eagles take lambs. I suspect they are mostly carrion feeders here as we have plenty of dead sheep and Red Deer on the hill. It will be interesting to see what they predate in the lowlands of England, guessing Pheasant. I posed the question to avery about the ethics of releasing a non native bird into the countryside, as WJ are using the same argument against pheasants but he failed to answer. The sight of an Eagle soaring above you is pure magic though .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinj Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 I vote that it's a good thing, I love to see birds of prey because, for most of my life, there weren't any and just seeing a Kite or a Buzzard is still a thrill. Imagine seeing an Eagle in the south of England - it would be flipping orgasmic!! We wiped them out in the first place, probably because they were taking our lambs. We shouldn't be surprised if they do it again, it's the nature of the beast and we need to be more tolerant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, martinj said: I vote that it's a good thing, I love to see birds of prey because, for most of my life, there weren't any and just seeing a Kite or a Buzzard is still a thrill. Imagine seeing an Eagle in the south of England - it would be flipping orgasmic!! We wiped them out in the first place, probably because they were taking our lambs. We shouldn't be surprised if they do it again, it's the nature of the beast and we need to be more tolerant. hello, try saying that to the hard working farming families who spend 365 days a year looking after their sheep be it a 100/ 1000 or landowners with 1000 or more and employ staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeydredd Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) It all depends on the food source in the area and where they wander to. There will undoubtedly be some cases of interaction with livestock in the early stages as they wander from the food release site - in the Scottish release in Fife I recall some attacks on a smallholder's fowl - but it will be the sustainable food source level that dictates whether or not the focus on livestock. They are huge things, I had two fly lowish over my head whilst out goshawking one day as we had a roost site locally, it was rather unnerving for both of us!! Edited August 23, 2019 by Mickeydredd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 This was the attack which is quite close to me and I have had one eye me and the dog out wildfowling one day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeydredd Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) I was hawking rabbits on the hills above Rait, the roost was just over the hill from there! Edited August 23, 2019 by Mickeydredd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) Well they are beautiful birds 😊 however they appear to be very territorial minimum of 80 square kilometres 3 pairs a year for 3 years on a area total including towns road and such of 280 square kilometre? I assume that they are captive bread birds and hand reared so they maybe struggle to catch live prey not sure if it was a good idea to cut down the oak trees in the release area (so they could see the sea )🙄 anyway we shall see what happens 🤔although I fear for the brown hares as they do struggle a bit hopefully they will like seagulls and Brent geese and sometimes the odd seasonal mullet from the estuary Edited August 23, 2019 by Old farrier Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Am I a cynic or is this just another stick to beat shooting with; scenario IoW is not really sea eagle habitat. Birds are released and either disappear or die of starvation Nasty horrible shooters/game keepers have killed them I hope I am wrong but the attitude of the people involved is not the well being of the eagles, they have other agendas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, Old farrier said: Well they are beautiful birds 😊 however they appear to be very territorial minimum of 80 square kilometres 3 pairs a year for 3 years on a area total including towns road and such of 280 square kilometre? I assume that they are captive bread birds and hand reared so they maybe struggle to catch live prey not sure if it was a good idea to cut down the oak trees in the release area (so they could see the sea )🙄 anyway we shall see what happens 🤔although I fear for the brown hares as they do struggle a bit hopefully they will like seagulls and Brent geese and sunshine the odd seasonal mullet from the estuary Taken from the wild in Scotland, so probably just prior to fledging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 hours ago, henry d said: This was the attack which is quite close to me and I have had one eye me and the dog out wildfowling one day! Once they have tasted the blood of a clergy they will be back..😵 and what about the rspb response oh it was just a scratch, they should try having a Eagle on their back..😣 Wait till one is seen flying low over Newport clutching a poodle ! They will be on the GL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, Penelope said: Taken from the wild in Scotland, so probably just prior to fledging. The half a million acres of moor in Scotland is probably over populated with the eagles 🤭🤔 just wondering how the parent eagles are feeling about having their young taken ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 23/08/2019 at 08:56, martinj said: I vote that it's a good thing, I love to see birds of prey because, for most of my life, there weren't any and just seeing a Kite or a Buzzard is still a thrill. Imagine seeing an Eagle in the south of England - it would be flipping orgasmic!! We wiped them out in the first place, probably because they were taking our lambs. We shouldn't be surprised if they do it again, it's the nature of the beast and we need to be more tolerant. Easy to say if it doesn't affect you personally. Always amazed at how the few manage behind closed doors, to affect the lives of so many? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just a update on the sea eagle released on the island if you’re planning on coming over to see them you’ll need to go to Kent🤭 or just south of London 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Old farrier said: Just a update on the sea eagle released on the island if you’re planning on coming over to see them you’ll need to go to Kent🤭 or just south of London 🤔 😀 well who would have thought that.. mind you taking geese from the serpentine will be a bit of a talking point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 I think it’s on a sightseeing trip 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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