islandgun Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Rewulf said: Your wages Mr Bercow, and our gratitude for your efforts.. sorry to lower the tone , but is he a bit gender fluid ? his hand looks a tad effete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, panoma1 said: Once we are out, we can plough our own furrow, as a sovereign nation, trading with the rest of the world..... This is a dream, not a plan. It's James Hacker.... 26 minutes ago, pinfireman said: .the WA on offer is I suspect, what the EU have conspired with "others" to tie the UK into the EU with a BRINO. No, there was never a conspiracy of any kind. Rather, given the constraints of May 's 'red lines' and the EU rules that govern the single market, (which the UK had a very large part in writing in the first place, it might be added) the WA was the best that the negotiators could come up with in the time available to them. Edited September 10, 2019 by Retsdon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 53 minutes ago, grrclark said: Was that Thornberry? I had a picture of someone else in my head for that Yes it was her. 53 minutes ago, grrclark said: Whilst i’m not a Labour voter I find it disappointing how they have abandoned their traditional support base and sneer at them from lofty perches. They are chasing the young, woke and ever so slightly entitled idealists with their meretricious adulteration of Trotskyist/Marxist socialism and wholly missing the point of what the blue collar, working class individual wants, which is a simply a fair deal that rewards endeavour, a fair days work and to be heard. Spot on, and it's going to cost them dear. 😂 24 minutes ago, Retsdon said: No, there was never a conspiracy of any kind 🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, islandgun said: sorry to lower the tone , but is he a bit gender fluid ? his hand looks a tad effete Well he's a cuckold, I seem to remember his wife felt the need to "play away" so you could be right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, Retsdon said: This is a dream, not a plan. It's James Hacker.... Oh ye of little faith! call it what you will....but ask anyone who is not a remainer and this is what we expect from our politicians!.......Leavers think constructively, remainers are acting destructively! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Christopher Jones Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 Britain at Risk of Losing Leading Edge in Maritime Services https://gcaptain.com/britain-at-risk-of-losing-leading-edge-in-maritime-services/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 If it is indeed anything to do with the UK leaving the EU? Then blame those remainer parliamentarians who have frustrated, prevaricated and delayed Brexit and cynically and systematically removed the elected governments ability to negotiate a mutually beneficial deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Capt Christopher Jones said: Britain at Risk of Losing Leading Edge in Maritime Services https://gcaptain.com/britain-at-risk-of-losing-leading-edge-in-maritime-services/ Interesting, if a little self serving article. What do you believe the relevance is to Brexit? The market conditions outlined in the report from a softening of the banking industry approach to shipping, perhaps balancing the risk profile and their debt to collateral ratios, the hardening of approach to taxation on high net worth individuals (Greek shipping magnates) and a far more compelling and less regulated emerging market in Asia and a freer economy in the US are all nothing to do with Brexit and general market factors anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 hours ago, panoma1 said: Nah!.........What can you not understand by the phrase.... "No deal is better than a bad deal... ... and neither of them are as good as a good deal. Why be so negative about this? Time pales into insignificance when you consider all of the positives that would come from a good deal that both sides agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Retsdon said: This is a dream, not a plan. It's James Hacker.... No, there was never a conspiracy of any kind. Rather, given the constraints of May 's 'red lines' and the EU rules that govern the single market, (which the UK had a very large part in writing in the first place, it might be added) the WA was the best that the negotiators could come up with in the time available to them. Fell of my chair laughing, are you for real!! Merkel wrote it, put a bow on it and gave it to her pathetic subservient UK PM to put to the traitors three times, even they rejected it for differing reasons the right because it was totally bloody awful and the left because they want to remain full stop. Boris will get a last minute tweak and bring it back yet again no doubt, don't trust him as far as I could throw him either. Edited September 10, 2019 by JRDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, henry d said: ... and neither of them are as good as a good deal. Why be so negative about this? Time pales into insignificance when you consider all of the positives that would come from a good deal that both sides agree with. Because pre Brexit there is no "deal" on offer, just the EU's terms for our leaving! The EU will not discuss a trade deal until we have left! And paid the £36billion ransom! Any deals will be struck (or not?) post Brexit. Edited September 10, 2019 by panoma1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 And after hearing cryptic comments by May about why she gave Boycott a knighthood I am sure she expects her slightly tweaked deal to get through, he never gave up and got there in the end with her usual smirk! FUTM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 I came across an article saying that Harriet Harman is now being put forward as the next House of Commons speaker. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10659100/Harriet-Harman-Jack-Dromey-Patricia-Hewitt-and-the-Paedophile-Information-Exchange.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, sportsbob said: I came across an article saying that Harriet Harman is now being put forward as the next House of Commons speaker. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10659100/Harriet-Harman-Jack-Dromey-Patricia-Hewitt-and-the-Paedophile-Information-Exchange.html Yes that broke during Tuesday afternoon, it is traditional that the two main parties take it in turns to provide the unoposed Speaker of the House, although Bercow was the least Conservative Speaker ever! 3 hours ago, henry d said: ... and neither of them are as good as a good deal. Why be so negative about this? Time pales into insignificance when you consider all of the positives that would come from a good deal that both sides agree with. And just where will that "good deal" come from Henry? We've had 3 years of **** poor negotiation that has achieved nothing, the EU do not want to let us go with anything worth having as it will only encourage others to follow us out! Far better would have been to negotiate with Cameron when he went to them for a few changes, but no they shrugged him off, opened the way for UKIP to build momentum and lead to the now infamous referendum. The House of Cards will fall, let's leave the White Elephant ASAP! Edited September 10, 2019 by TIGHTCHOKE Capitalisation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 The EU don't want to be seen as the ones pushing for a no deal and I would hope that the majority of MP's would be the same and the Ireland problem needs to be dealt with well too, that is where we broker a good deal? No conspiracy, no nasty Johnny foreigners against us, just a sorting out of the bits n bobs and we can go our metaphorical ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 So now labour are pushing for another referendum; with a ‘credible leave option’! But Tom Watson says labour will campaign to remain. How on Earth they can campaign for another referendum when we haven’t implemented the result of the first beggars belief! I await a reporter to ask this question of the relevant people, but won’t be holding my breath. My belief that the EU is corrupt and undemocratic obviously applies to UK politics also. I wonder what Mr Farage is doing this morning? 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Scully said: I wonder what Mr Farage is doing this morning? According to your beliefs he must be being corrupt and undemocratic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, henry d said: According to your beliefs he must be being corrupt and undemocratic? If people are prepared to be corrupt and undemocratic to get what they want as opposed to honouring the referendum result, then as long as Farage is prepared to be more corrupt and undemocratic than the others then I’m fine with that. I don’t mind a dirty fight if that’s the way people want it. My son was too young to vote in 2016, but when my daughter asked me for my opinion on what I thought she should do, I took the time to explain why it was entirely up to her and did my best to be unbiased in my explanation. As far as I know she didn’t vote as she was undecided. I will now endeavour to explain to both why they should vote Brexit, and am prepared to pay them to do so if needs be; they’re students and as such, skint. 🙂 I have no doubt Labour will be bussing in students to the polling stations if and when the time comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Yeah, it is after all September the 11th and the anniversary of the mother of all CT`s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) Trivial I know, but i find it really annoying when reporters and correspondents on TV refer to Brexit as ******* Breggsit! Really puts what's left of my teeth on edge! Lol! Edited September 11, 2019 by panoma1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 So, the government is in contempt of our sovereign parliament (which we're TAKING BACK CONTROL TO) and refusing to release the Yellowhammer documents. Leadsom said that releasing the documents would just concern people. Are Brexiteers really okay with this? Leaving at any cost? Imagine walking into a car dealership, asking to see the service and MOT history of a car, and being refused because they don't want to cause a panic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, henry d said: Yeah, it is after all September the 11th and the anniversary of the mother of all CT`s Is that the best you’ve got Henry? What is democratic about campaigning to overturn the result of a democratically arrived at referendum result before its implementation? Isn’t that corruption? I don’t see any CT regarding the TT’s, but if you want to start another thread I’m sure there are those who do. Edited September 11, 2019 by Scully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Well, well, well it is reported that the Scottish court has just ruled the suspension of parliament is unlawful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scully said: So now labour are pushing for another referendum; with a ‘credible leave option’! But Tom Watson says labour will campaign to remain. You couldnt make it up, a thin veneer of pretend democracy over the dark beating heart of totalitarianism. Labour to its leave voters, ' We are going to ignore the first referendum because we didnt like the result, fight for a second one with loaded options so its all 'fair' this time' Labour to its remain voters ' We are going to fight to remain' If you vote for labour ever again in your life, just remember, unless you are one of the champagne socialist elite, they are not representing YOU, and putting them in power will bring you everything you deserve. They have more in common with 60s era USSR , or the modern day NK regime. 1 minute ago, panoma1 said: Well, well, well it is reported that the Scottish court has just ruled the suspension of parliament is unlawful! Doesnt surprise me in the slightest, they will bend the law to suit their agenda. Nothing is off limits these days . Edited September 11, 2019 by Rewulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Rewulf said: You couldnt make it up, a thin veneer of pretend democracy over the dark beating heart of totalitarianism. Labour to its leave voters, ' We are going to ignore the first referendum because we didnt like the result, fight for a second one with loaded options so its all 'fair' this time' Labour to its remain voters ' We are going to fight to remain' If you vote for labour ever again in your life, just remember, unless you are one of the champagne socialist elite, they are not representing YOU, and putting them in power will bring you everything you deserve. They have more in common with 60s era USSR , or the modern day NK regime. Agreed but as a nigh on lifelong Tory voter I can’t see me ever voting for them again. Not voting is not an option to me so it’ll probably have to be Lib Dem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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