Old farrier Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 45 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Blimey is that your qualifying requirement? ย I am currently only an A class shot, used to be AAA when I was shooting regularly back in the last century! I recon youโre a bit of a sandbagger ๐๐ shooting with a 4.10 in the dayโs they work out the averages ๐คญ๐๐๐ but I canโt really comment as Iโm only a C class shot (now) ๐ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 I have seen plenty of "sandbaggers" over the years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I have seen plenty of "sandbaggers" over the years! Its those teabaggers you need to watch out forย ๐ฎ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Krieghoffoverblaser said: Not really mine as I fall u see the **** average hence I donโt argue. But b class shooters with a axe to grind arguing that world and Olympic ย champions are wrong is ridiculousย As previously stated my CPSA number is 65335, I have spent years at the top of AA and variously bottom of AAA too, whether it comes across as arrogant or showing offย I do not care but my method (which I know for a fact others use too) is similar to,ย but does away even with the SP, I simply use the whole of the barrel as a reference as to which is the real barrel doing the shooting and have trained my brain/eyes to the level required that it won me the Kent ESP in 2016 with a score of 95 beating many very decent shots on the day.ย I haveย also managed to fluke dozens of HGโs beating the likes of GD, even Ben might recall the registered 93 that bagged me joint HG on a very decent field not that long ago, I say he might recall cos I fluked an extra 6 birds than Him ! So when you go saying things like B class shooter with an axe to grind, I have actual proof youโre firing blanks ( in the manner of speaking) ย . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Rewulf said: Its those teabaggers you need to watch out forย ๐ฎ A group of chaps at Bruntingthorpe that run old jet aircraft gave themselves that very name, we often wonder why! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 Sadly when it comes to proof of capability of the eye dominance products it is claim and counter claim by either Ben and his supportersย or those behind Shoot SP. Ben claims the Eye D Rail is the most successful ever, based on nothing that i have seen which is anything other than subjective commentary, likewise with the Shoot SP I have not seen anything that is an objective measure or assessment to prove that. Nor have Iย seen anything that is an objective assessment to disprove either product. ย The claims that an Olympic shooter has dismissed the SP falls very much into the โso what?โ camp. ย Without question of doubt the Olympic shooter has exceptional talent and I would also suggest is unlikely to have a fundamental eye dominance problem such that they would see benefit from adoptingย either product, they can of course express an opinion of it in line with their understanding of how these things work, but it doesnโt mean theyโre correct. ย Do they have a particular agenda to promote that particular message for example. There may be an eye specialist who is dismissive of the SP, there may also be an eye specialist who is supportive of the SP, who decides which eye specialist is right? ย The court of popular opinion on Facebook? What I do struggle with is why there is that apparentย need to try and discredit the opposing product so enthusiastically. ย Sometimes dressed up as a self righteous campaign to keep the snake oil salesmen out the game, but all the while there is the same hypocritical approachย of self promotion based on nothing other thanย subjective opinion. I will be delighted to see real objective measurements based on aย standard scientific approach andย measure of control to change my take on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 I wonder why we are even discussing all of these anyway. It's like discussing wether Bud Light is *in fact* the most refreshing beer in the world, because you know, that Well Known Guy said so on telly, and clearly he knows something about beer, he drinks a lot. ย Do you believe Lewis Hamilton when he tells you Pirelli Tyres are the best in the world? I don't know about you, but, I don't -- the guy doesn't 1) need the road tyres *I need* anyway and 2) it's not like he's impartial anyway. Case closed. Back to the cheating bits, that's much more exciting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, buze said: Back to the cheating bits, that's much more exciting! ๐ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 Now we are back on track and Krieghoffoverblaser is with us - any chance of a reply to Teal's question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) I believe Ben is going to inform us all of the situation and how it was resolved (well maybe after he has asked the lawyers what he is allowed to divulge). Edit - maybe not, on a second reading of his post on here, he may have been talking about something completely different, when he said he isn't going to say much. Seems the old adage/myth may be right 'no publicity is bad publicity' Although saying that His other account seems to want the tread lockedย Oh well back to speculationย Edited February 13, 2020 by Newbie to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 This topic isย more interesting than the corona virus and kicking doors in with Burnley Dave! ๐ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 I don't think Burnley Dave ever dodged answering a direct question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, Will Poon said: This topic isย more interesting than the corona virus and kicking doors in with Burnley Dave! ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ hope youโre keeping well ๐ Just a thought if they were to have the charity shoot this yearย would Ben be eligible to shoot for theย North๐ or theย current championsย the SOUTH ๐๐ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage10FP Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 56 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: I believe Ben is going to inform us all of the situation and how it was resolved (well maybe after he has asked the lawyers what he is allowed to divulge). Edit - maybe not, on a second reading of his post on here, he may have been talking about something completely different, when he said he isn't going to say much. Seems the old adage/myth may be right 'no publicity is bad publicity' Although saying that His other account seems to want the tread lockedย Oh well back to speculationย I think this is more about the shoot he is going to announce that may distract us all from the "alleged" incident at the worlds ๐ค๐ค Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Teal said: Are you sure about that?! Oh dear !ย ย ย Has someone got caught telling `porkies`. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 I would welcome an answer, one way or the other. It doesn't seem a complicated question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, JJsDad said: Oh dear !ย ย ย Has someone got caught telling `porkies`. โOh dearโ indeed! ๐ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 Still no answer then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perazzishot Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 So is this really the case of will the real Ben Husthwaite please stand up? Or Both stand up?ย ๐ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Perazzishot said: So is this really the case of will the real Ben Husthwaite please stand up? Or Both stand up?ย ๐ Will we ever find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 I think some people might have been underestimating the sheer bloodymindeness of the Pigeon Watch collective. We became so good at being at each other throats most of the time on this forum that we could probably be World Champions in the discipline without even have to cheat! :-) ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, buze said: I think some people might have been underestimating the sheer bloodymindeness of the Pigeon Watch collective. We became so good at being at each other throats most of the time on this forum that we could probably be World Champions in the discipline without even have to cheat! :-) Makes a pleasant replacement for the Brexit thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 53 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Will we ever find out? Well evidently `Teal` knows something. I smell a doppelganger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Gordon R said: Now we are back on track and Krieghoffoverblaser is with us - any chance of a reply to Teal's question? He is clearly true to hisย principles:ย as far as I can see he is faithful to this one thread. In theย modern world too many a man would post all over the forum like a flibbertigibbet. Veryย few have the commitment, dedication,ย clear-sighted vision to stay, trulyย a one-thread legend. We salute you Sir.ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Gordon R said: It doesn't seem a complicated question. It is if you are frantically trying to remember what name you posted under and wondering what the ever watchful Teal has found out ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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