If Labour get in power......

[harrycatcat1]

Labour have agreed to close private schools if they get in power. Why would they want to do this?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjzrva3h-XkAhXPxYUKHb5nA-MQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Flabour-support-abolishing-private-schools-in-conference-vote-11817251&psig=AOvVaw2kgbjx1M40rSyCFvPBIh5p&ust=1569263287867852

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[Kalahari]

4 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said:

Labour have agreed to close private schools if they get in power. Why would they want to do this?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjzrva3h-XkAhXPxYUKHb5nA-MQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Flabour-support-abolishing-private-schools-in-conference-vote-11817251&psig=AOvVaw2kgbjx1M40rSyCFvPBIh5p&ust=1569263287867852

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Well, where will they find the money for several hundred thoiusand school places. People who educate their children privately have already paid the taxes for the state to educate their children. So they are subsidizing ordinary kids and this will disappear.

 

David.

[bluesj]

Because they wouldn't want people too well educated.

[del.gue]

To prove their hypocrisy?... diane abbott amongst other labourites sent her kids to a private school.

[Retsdon]

17 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said:

Why would they want to do this?

Because private schools mean that influential people with political and social clout don't have a dog in the fight when it comes to higher, or even decent, standards in public education. And this is especially true at local level. 

[Pigeon Shredder.]

11 minutes ago, del.gue said:

To prove their hypocrisy?... diane abbott amongst other labourites sent her kids to a private school.

And they then taught her mathematics 😴

[GingerCat]

They (labour cabinet) have often attended themselves or sent their children.

If privately educated the state has less control over what you learn. 

Labour doesn't like having less control, they want total control over every aspect of your life starting with education.

They don't want private home ownership or private vehicles. They want mass transit (they control) and council house tenements where the loyal are rewarded and the desenters are punished.

Nothing is bigger or more important  than the party.  Communist Russia had a political class where "friends" of the party had perks far beyond that of the normal lay minion. They were not alone. It stemmies desent.

Comrade corbyn wants control over the media and even ranted about the free press on a Facebook video. It reminded me of president snow from the hunger games.

If they control what you learn and what you see (north korea) how you get to work, where you live, provide the illusion of choice where necessary (political officer or road sweeper perhaps). Then they control you. And will always be in power. 

When they have spent all your money and worked you to death for absolutely nothing (and we resemble every other communist/Marxist/extreme left governed country in history ever) they will blame it on you not doing enough. Eventually there will be a revolt and years of recover.

It starts with the kids.

Just like the recent climate protests with the far left cheering from the sidelines. 

[ditchman]

45 minutes ago, del.gue said:

To prove their hypocrisy?... diane abbott amongst other labourites sent her kids to a private school.

unfortunatly none of it hasnt rubbed off on her........................one plus 10 is eleventy leven

[ShootingEgg]

38 minutes ago, GingerCat said:

They (labour cabinet) have often attended themselves or sent their children.

If privately educated the state has less control over what you learn. 

Labour doesn't like having less control, they want total control over every aspect of your life starting with education.

They don't want private home ownership or private vehicles. They want mass transit (they control) and council house tenements where the loyal are rewarded and the desenters are punished.

Nothing is bigger or more important  than the party.  Communist Russia had a political class where "friends" of the party had perks far beyond that of the normal lay minion. They were not alone. It stemmies desent.

Comrade corbyn wants control over the media and even ranted about the free press on a Facebook video. It reminded me of president snow from the hunger games.

If they control what you learn and what you see (north korea) how you get to work, where you live, provide the illusion of choice where necessary (political officer or road sweeper perhaps). Then they control you. And will always be in power. 

When they have spent all your money and worked you to death for absolutely nothing (and we resemble every other communist/Marxist/extreme left governed country in history ever) they will blame it on you not doing enough. Eventually there will be a revolt and years of recover.

It starts with the kids.

Just like the recent climate protests with the far left cheering from the sidelines. 

All of the above scares the carp out of me... It really does. I have worked hard for what I own, I don't see my self as privileged or well off, I worked from 14 even when sruddying to be able to buy my first home at 25, now looking to buy with the other half and keep my current property, a labour govt would penalise me for doing this. Probably take my current property away and give it to my tenants... 

I hate knowing that under that kind of govt the people working hard would end up worse off.. 

[Lloyd90]

1 hour ago, Retsdon said:

Because private schools mean that influential people with political and social clout don't have a dog in the fight when it comes to higher, or even decent, standards in public education. And this is especially true at local level. 

What's education like in Saudi? 

[Retsdon]

46 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said:

What's education like in Saudi? 

Whose education? Most of it is pretty abysmal. 

[GingerCat]

1 hour ago, ShootingEgg said:

All of the above scares the carp out of me... It really does. I have worked hard for what I own, I don't see my self as privileged or well off, I worked from 14 even when sruddying to be able to buy my first home at 25, now looking to buy with the other half and keep my current property, a labour govt would penalise me for doing this. Probably take my current property away and give it to my tenants... 

I hate knowing that under that kind of govt the people working hard would end up worse off.. 

And whilst doing so they will pretend they are helping you be better off. 

To each their needs.... No one needs 2 houses under a labour government. Private property is against marxist doctrine. 

As he said himself

The theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.

KARL MARX, The Communist Manifesto

None of the below are shining examples of economic powerhouses where people live in utopia, but like all good socialists corbyn knows he can do it better... 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states

 

Edited September 22, 2019 by GingerCat

[Lloyd90]

26 minutes ago, GingerCat said:

And whilst doing so they will pretend they are helping you be better off. 

To each their needs.... No one needs 2 houses under a labour government. Private property is against marxist doctrine. 

As he said himself

The theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.

KARL MARX, The Communist Manifesto

None of the below are shining examples of economic powerhouses where people live in utopia, but like all good socialists corbyn knows he can do it better... 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states

 

Yes whilst living in his £3,000,000 home and "earning" (Scamming more like) over £140,000 a year in "pay". 

[McSpredder]

Much of the inequality arises because some parents read to their children, buy books for them, discuss current affairs with them, take them to museums, theatres, concerts, etc, etc.   Others don't.

Unless this informal education by parents is outlawed, Labour doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of ensuring that no child gets a better education than any other.   Dream on, Comrade Corbyn.

[Cosmicblue]

We must remember that politicians will say virtually anything when they are not charge of Whitehall (where policies are turned into real actions).  Once elected the civil servants remind our windy politicians that all the guff they spouted either needs paying for (no money) or there is some law/party benefactor whose support will be lost - net result everything gets forgotten.

 

[JohnfromUK]

10 hours ago, ShootingEgg said:

All of the above scares the carp out of me... It really does.

Nevertheless, it is a good guide to the (lefty wing) of Labours thinking.  Corbyn himself was privately educated for some of his schooling.

8 hours ago, GingerCat said:

No one needs 2 houses under a labour government. Private property is against marxist doctrine. 

McDonnell has 2 houses, Thornberry 3 - any many other Labour 'seniors' more than one.  But these things are OK for Party seniors .......

Edited September 23, 2019 by JohnfromUK

[oldypigeonpopper]

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[ShootingEgg]

5 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

hello, in answer to the heading of this post GOD HELP US !!!!!!!! and i am an atheist!!!!!!!

[Scully]

I have a mate who is so seriously wealthy that he’s bullet proof from that perspective, who says he’s going to vote labour just to **** off all those who don’t want to leave the EU. 🙂 He takes great pleasure in telling folk! 

 

[bostonmick]

Looks like corbyn and Co are going along similar lines to their last election campaign. Everything is going to be free. No doubt benefits for those who choose to sit in front of the sky TV box with their beer and cigarettes will also increase. Free housing also. And will pander largely to the remain camp in the hope of forming an alliance with the inaptly named Liberal Democrats. And we all know from nick clegg how they keep their promises. But then on the other hand if they did gain power we could always demand a second vote because we don't agree with the first. Sound familiar Jeremy. 

[Raja Clavata]

I don't expect to meet anyone in either my social or professional circle who agrees with this motion. Didn't take long for this thread to gravitate towards the B word did it...

[Thunderbird]

Why does Karl Marx only drink herbal teas?

Because proper tea is theft. 

[Westward]

They want to close private schools simply because their ideology is to encourage their supporters to be envious toward those who have more than them. That's why they set out to destroy the grammar schools which were (and still are) the greatest enabler of social mobility this country ever had, simply because they saw it as an elitist system. So, with the connivance of numerous LEAs, they jammed almost all secondary students into comprehensive schools, whether they wanted to or not.  Funny thing is that these emblems of socialist forced equality stream students according to ability which of course means winners and losers just as it's always been. Nature always wins in the end.

[RockySpears]

15 hours ago, harrycatcat1 said:

Why would they want to do this?

It's called the Politics of Envy.

  No one is allowed more than the other, that is not "fair".  Even if they worked damned hard for it.

  It is absolutely astonishing, and shows where the country is at at the moment, that they can publish this and NOT turn off every Labour voter, instantly nor be lambasted by every media institute there is.

  We are sleepwalking into Socialism, real, hard, Venezuelan style Socialism.

  People seem to have forgotten, or never learned about, the 100 million or so dead that Socialism gave us in the 20th century.  Russia Stalin and Lenin, Cambodia's Pol Pot etc etc without count.

  If you want some easy watching on YT, look up Jordan Peterson and see what he thinks of Socialism,

 

RS

[Thunderbird]

Added to which, there is a move to allow 16 year olds to vote, easy pickings for the "everything should be fair" argument. You only have to look at the morons following that Swedish oddball around.