If Labour get in power......

[JohnfromUK]

2 minutes ago, Thunderbird said:

there is a move to allow 16 year olds to vote

Personally I would favour a voting age of 21 ......... when people have had a little time to have some experience of life, are beginning to think about future responsibilities like families and commitments.

Most of us (certainly in my generation) went through a late teenage time when the future and responsibilities seemed still in the distant future .......... it's a good time - but not the best time to be making long term planning decisions!

[Thunderbird]

‘If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart.  If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.’

[panoma1]

16 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

Personally I would favour a voting age of 21 ......... when people have had a little time to have some experience of life, are beginning to think about future responsibilities like families and commitments.

Most of us (certainly in my generation) went through a late teenage time when the future and responsibilities seemed still in the distant future .......... it's a good time - but not the best time to be making long term planning decisions!

That’s why politicians want it! At sixteen they are inexperienced, gullible and believe all the promises and fairytales of free this and free that they are promised!......So out of self interest, they will vote for whoever promises them the most.

They are never told and probably never think to question where is all the money for this free stuff, is coming from?....

[old man]

16 hours ago, harrycatcat1 said:

Labour have agreed to close private schools if they get in power. Why would they want to do this?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjzrva3h-XkAhXPxYUKHb5nA-MQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Flabour-support-abolishing-private-schools-in-conference-vote-11817251&psig=AOvVaw2kgbjx1M40rSyCFvPBIh5p&ust=1569263287867852

Sorry link doesn't seem to work.

That isn't the only thing they have planned by a long chalk?

[Yellow Bear]

11 minutes ago, old man said:

That isn't the only thing they have planned by a long chalk?

It's simple - take everything from ALL those that have anything and are not "party elite"  -  give some to those who have not and keep the rest for the "party elite", whilst making it impossible to vote them out.

[Thunderbird]

If they were in power any length of time you might well be kissing shooting (and recreational fishing) goodbye. 

[ditchman]

just listening to J. Mcdonnell at the labour party con'...........................my god......what utter carp......and people believe it

[islandgun]

https://vegconomist.com/fairs-and-events/vegan-now-international-launch-at-labour-party-conference-2019/

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Gordon Bennett!

[Retsdon]

12 hours ago, McSpredder said:

Much of the inequality arises because some parents read to their children, buy books for them, discuss current affairs with them, take them to museums, theatres, concerts, etc, etc.   Others don't.

Some of it. But most of it isn't. There's a good article in today's Guardian on the topic here. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/jan/13/public-schools-david-kynaston-francis-green-engines-of-privilege

When you look at the imbalances it's hard to argue with the logic of what the authors are saying.

 

[islandgun]

50 minutes ago, islandgun said:

https://vegconomist.com/fairs-and-events/vegan-now-international-launch-at-labour-party-conference-2019/

meat should be made illegal says quorn ?  eating QC.. michael mansfield

 

[ferguson_tom]

Typical of a socialist government, its not too improve the state run schools its just to ruin the private ones so that it seems everyone has the same for better or worse.

 

30 minutes ago, Retsdon said:

When you look at the imbalances it's hard to argue with the logic of what the authors are saying.

 

Accept for one pretty obvious point that the "Noahs Flood of resources" is all funded by parents paying for the education, which wouldn't be available to spend if everything was state run as parents wouldn't be paying it.

Edited September 23, 2019 by ferguson_tom

[Thunderbird]

3 minutes ago, ferguson_tom said:

Typical of a socialist government, its not too improve the state run schools its just to ruin the private ones so that it seems everyone has the same for better or worse.

 

Yep. Socialism is usually a race to the bottom. I hope the champagne socialists who think it's oh-so-clever voting labour are looking forward to giving up their buy-to-let portfolio to compulsory right-to-buy, and looking forward to their new job in the state tractor factory. 

[Westward]

Reading about all the bonkers spending promises coming from McDonnell at the conference it's pretty clear that not only is the loony left still around they're more loony than ever. These people cannot accept that the socialist experiment has failed everywhere it's been tried. It always runs out of money and always ends up hurting the very people whose interests they claim to be looking out for.

To quote Churchill: "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of the miseries".

[bostonmick]

Aparantly labour have announced they will cut the working week to 32 hours with no loss of earnings. What they have not grasped is that is still 32 hours more than their core voters have to do at the moment. 

[ditchman]

just watched the voting.....................wwoooowwwooooo....................so scary...come back Diane, all is forgiven..........

[TIGHTCHOKE]

16 minutes ago, bostonmick said:

Aparantly labour have announced they will cut the working week to 32 hours with no loss of earnings. What they have not grasped is that is still 32 hours more than their core voters have to do at the moment. 

Blimey, what a wonderful world Uncle Jezza will make for us all!

[Guest cookoff013]

He scares me. He really does

[grrclark]

9 hours ago, Thunderbird said:

‘If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart.  If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.’

Good old WC.

[GingerCat]

21 minutes ago, cookoff013 said:

He scares me. He really does

Keeps me awake at night. Truly petrifying. 

[kenholland]

labour will say anything , to get back in power , then when they do , they don't do anything , same old clap trap, we have heard it all before , yawn yawn.

[bluesj]

3 minutes ago, kenholland said:

labour will say anything , to get back in power , then when they do , they don't do anything , same old clap trap, we have heard it all before , yawn yawn.

May be they will hold back on the things that cost money, but think how much they can **** up your life without spending anything! 

[armsid]

in East germany you had the Stasi Russia the kgb why would anyone need these groups to keep the people in check if it really worked ? corbyns "kgb" would be momentum ! heaven help us

[Houseplant]

I was listening to British talk radio the other day. A Labour Party member phoned in to make the point that they should be storming ahead in the polls given the state of the Conservative Party, yet they keep shooting themselves in the foot... over and over again. I'm inclined to agree. 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Gordon Bennett, did you all see just how the Labour party conduct themselves at conference? 

 

And strange how the Leadership would not put a face up on Good Morning Britain on ITV to face Piers Morgan to account for their lack of democracy at conference.

 

The BBC at least got hold of the awful Rebecca Long-Bailey who was struggling when faced with moderate questioning on Breakfast with Charlie Stayt.

 

They have stated through Corbyn that they will take a Brexit neutral approach to the next General Election, nothing like giving the voters something to choose from!