bostonmick Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 At the end of the day if you want to own your own home you have to make sacrifices in life. Something the young entitled generation are not prepared to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 46 minutes ago, bostonmick said: At the end of the day if you want to own your own home you have to make sacrifices in life. Something the young entitled generation are not prepared to do. 3 hours ago, Demonic69 said: Our kids CAN afford homes, the just don't want to start in a 2-bed ex-council terrace or semi, they want a 4 bed detached on a new build estate with the partner they've been with for 5 minutes. Generalise much, chaps? Precisely who do you think is buying the ex-council properties in the, uhhm, more interesting areas? I certainly did so, admittedly knocking on for ten years ago. I did it on a single income too. The neighbour can't be more than 25, is a gas engineer and has just finished re-doing his place. Back on topic, no deal Brexit (more accurately described as a WTO-rules Brexit) will be a damp squib compared to the massive rush for the exit should the current Labour shadow cabinet ever get anywhere near no 10. Likely as not, myself included. The 'brain drain' on economies when innovation-averse "tax the rich" governments come to power is a well-documented, if hard to quantify phenomenon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said: Generalise much, chaps? Precisely who do you think is buying the ex-council properties in the, uhhm, more interesting areas? I certainly did so, admittedly knocking on for ten years ago. I did it on a single income too. The neighbour can't be more than 25, is a gas engineer and has just finished re-doing his place. Just looking at the stats and experience pal, but it's easier to generalise than to go into minute detail. 14 years ago we bought our fist home, ex-council semi in Barnsley. £75k in need of refurb, spent probably £30k on it over the years, only worth £90-100K currently. Every house we viewed was full of people our age complaining that the carpets weren't nice enough, or the wallpaper wouldn't do. Of course there are a hell of a lot of ex-council being bought by young buyers, but most of the new build in the UK are also going to under 25s, pretty much un-heard of 20 years ago! My comment was in response to the young not being able to get on the property ladder, those that want to, can. A lot just choose not to as they have high demands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 53 minutes ago, Demonic69 said: A lot just choose not to as they have high demands High demands - that is the key. It seems typical now that the young need to have as 'essentials', not luxuries; A new or at least very recent mobile phone - with copious data and minutes contract A minimum of one 'overseas foreign holiday a year - often a winter holiday as well At least one evening out a week - for which I'm told typical spend is between £50 and 100 Subscription viewing and listening services such as Netflix, Sky, Spotify etc. For many, a car - and for couples often 2 cars A smart fitted kitchen A large screen TV (often more than one) High speed unlimited broadband Bottle of wine many evenings when not out Cigarettes (though this is much less common than in my 'youth'.) for some Fashion clothing, trainers, etc. For the females, having hair 'done', nails 'done' etc. In my time as a young adult, all of these (or at least the equivalents at the time) were things you could only have if you had a fairly decent job, and most had to only do them occasionally because the mortgage had to come first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 I see the BBC are doing a one off comedy show on Wednesday. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49897949?SThisFB Should be good for a laugh🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 So she gets to ask six questions. I wonder who will be counting them for her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 Don't she have 6 fingers on one hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 41 minutes ago, B725 said: Don't she have 6 fingers on one hand? Depends who is counting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 As she holds out both hands and counts her fingers backwards 10, 9,8,7,6 and 5 on the other so I must have 11 finger's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 Do you have the lottery numbers for Friday perchance ? https://order-order.com/2019/10/02/diane-abbott-forgets-number-allotted-questions-pmqs/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 Gordon Bennett! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Gordon Bennett! i hope you are paying Gordon Bennetts family the royalties due............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 A article from the Grauniad; https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/06/poll-shows-conservative-party-15-points-ahead-of-labour With Boris apparently struggling and Labour and the Liberal Democrats unable to instigate, let alone win a confidence vote, the Conservatives have a substantial lead in the most recent polls. 38% Conservative 23% Labour 15% Liberal Democrats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: A article from the Grauniad; https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/06/poll-shows-conservative-party-15-points-ahead-of-labour With Boris apparently struggling and Labour and the Liberal Democrats unable to instigate, let alone win a confidence vote, the Conservatives have a substantial lead in the most recent polls. 38% Conservative 23% Labour 15% Liberal Democrats hello, i cannot understand how Labour get a 23% with all what is going on in their regime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i cannot understand how Labour get a 23% with all what is going on in their regime Simply because there are an awful lot of people out there who vote labour because their Father did, they do not have the sense to make their own decisions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Simply because there are an awful lot of people out there who vote labour because their Father did, they do not have the sense to make their own decisions! very true, in what we call the Labour heart lands through the generations of many families its a handed down tradition, Edited October 6, 2019 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Simply because there are an awful lot of people out there who vote labour because their Father did, they do not have the sense to make their own decisions! This ^^^ I know people who absolutely despise Corbyn and his mob, but still vote Labour because, "I'm a Labour man". You could resurrect Hitler and put him in charge of Labour, and they would still vote Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: This ^^^ I know people who absolutely despise Corbyn and his mob, but still vote Labour because, "I'm a Labour man". You could resurrect Hitler and put him in charge of Labour, and they would still vote Labour. Some would even vote Labour if Jacob Rees - Mogg was the leader such are the entrenched views of some Labour voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 Funny thing being they would probably say they vote labour because they look after the working man, and the Tories are all stuck up fox hunting toffs😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: very true, in what we call the Labour heart lands through the generations of many families its a handed down tradition, The thing with a lot of these Labour heartlands as they are known is they are among the poorest areas of the country. Even though we have had Labour governments and after their relentless promises of untold wealth being thrust upon them from Labour are still in the same position. But of course they can always blame the tories even if they are not in power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 3 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Simply because there are an awful lot of people out there who vote labour because their Father did, they do not have the sense to make their own decisions! Exactly this /\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 Interesting to see the labour party suspension of Chris Williamson MP has been upheld. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-50002636 The party really does have a problem with anti semitism, seems only some of the party realise that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 On 06/10/2019 at 09:14, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i cannot understand how Labour get a 23% with all what is going on in their regime Dianne Abbot worked it out. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 On 06/10/2019 at 09:14, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i cannot understand how Labour get a 23% with all what is going on in their regime The clue is in who commissioned the poll ? Other papers show labour on 19 , and some on 18 % !¬ Dont forget, labour will always capture those who have made a 'living' out of receiving benefits. Socialism encourages state dependency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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