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On a recent shoot someone had a boatload of Eley steel which didn't fire. . . . turns out they had been left in his 'shooting' transport ( a battered old 4x4) they are now on the way back to Eley but the suspicion is the firing pins were good and the powder has become damp/wet/moist. . . . keep those steels warm and dry!

https://www.eleyhawkltd.com/media-events/press-releases/eley-hawk-launches-the-first-disolvable-and-biodegradeable-wad-

Seems to have the issue solved BUT how many old stock is there out there?

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Edited due to reading on the cartridge box that carts are heat sealed. Apologies to Shearwater the info is in the link in a picture.

Wonderif this is the reason they're only standard carts not HP. Don't want too high a pressure. 

Spoils it for wildfowling where we want hp carts. Unless over close range splashes.

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For the new eley expensive eco wad cartridges they are doing what Winchester used to do years ago and welding or fusing the petals together when closing the cartridge, hence preventing moisture entering the cartridge. Not sure if they are doing this for all steel cartridges. 

to do this the loading machine must be running at a very slow speed and must be one factor in their very high price.

the eco wads are very hygroscopic so if they did not seal the contents to moisture the wad is at risk of significantly degrading within the cartridge.

 

 

 

 

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Overall I think it's something we have a real responsibility to be encouraging and using. What we do is relevant to conservation and the natural environment - we make sure to communicate that every time we're criticised (i.e all the time). We have to be promoting best practice and obviously distributing plastic over fields and wetlands is the complete opposite of this. 

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18 hours ago, figgy said:

Bit of luck plastic wads will be banned and then manufacturers will be forced to mass market them.

I would be careful what you wish for!

The gamebore card tube type wads have been available for quite some time and like the eco wad that eley and others are now pushing are expensive and only available in 12gauge and cartridge production speeds must be very much slower than with traditional plastic or fibre wads.

A ban on lead would be in totality.  .410 and 28gauge could become obsolete.

Then without traditional plastic wad and fibre wads what price maximum are we all prepared to pay for our cartridges to shoot?

Be that clay pigeons, vermin and game. 

Don’t rely on the card tubes or eco wad prices dropping to that of current wads as their materials are more expensive and production is very much slower due to the methods of manufacture so prices will be a premium price for probably a very long time until hopefully a better environmentally friendly wad is invented. 

 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, figgy said:

Fiber shot cups are cheap enough, big cart manufacturers are just having our pants down.

I do not believe for one minute that the cartridge companies are actually trying to 'rip us off'  (AGAIN)  !  😯

Maybe we should be insisting that no plastic cups or bottles are taken into, or sold,  in football grounds too  (no chance).

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