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My nephew has just been left some guns by his friend. As yet, I know not what the others might be. However, he's sent a photo of this Belgian made 410. Other than "Belgium" he has yet to find any other marks. He's up country so I can't help. Does anyone happen to know where they could be stamped?

 

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If it’s of a certain age, or dependant on its route to this country, it’s quite possible it hasn’t been proofed. 
I owned an unproved Model 12 for a number of years; it’s not a rare occurrence even nowadays, surprisingly. 

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Normally inside the barrel seating in the case of the action and on the underside of the barrel at the breech end. You are normally  looking for a Belgium proof mark on these folding shotguns. Google Belgium proof marks & you will get plenty of illustrations of what to look for.

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2 hours ago, wymberley said:

My nephew has just been left some guns by his friend. As yet, I know not what the others might be. However, he's sent a photo of this Belgian made 410. Other than "Belgium" he has yet to find any other marks. He's up country so I can't help. Does anyone happen to know where they could be stamped?

It's a lovely little gun and in good condition too, I bought a similar one for my son but it was not black, this is the first black one I have seen.

The markings on "ours" are mostly under the barrels - see the arrow. There were a lot of markings, I was able to deduce that it was made in the 50's in Liege, has 65mm chambers, is nitro proofed and lot's more fascinating detail. There was a number 11 stamped in a couple of places and we took this to be the serial number in the absence of anything more convincing.

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Looks very similar to my el chimbo side by side .410 proof Mark's on mine are where the arrow shows.

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Cheers, Guys. That's precisely (photo/arrow) where you would expect them to be so Scully may well have a point. I'll see if the lad can do a close up photo.

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1 hour ago, Scully said:

If it’s of a certain age, or dependant on its route to this country, it’s quite possible it hasn’t been proofed. 
I owned an unproved Model 12 for a number of years; it’s not a rare occurrence even nowadays, surprisingly. 

Model 12? does that mean that the 11 stamped on mine makes it a model 11?

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9 minutes ago, martinj said:

Model 12? does that mean that the 11 stamped on mine makes it a model 11?

I’m referring to a Winchester Model 12 pump I owned for some time. 

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