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Not really the end, I wouldn't be surprised for them to amalgamate or something similar. The antis are claiming it as their victory but it's not really, poor management decisions caused ruptions amongst the staff. I believe they have the money to continue. The hounds are being drafted out to different packs, my friend is getting a few. The antis harassed the atherstone horrifically for the past 4years, criminally in my opinion. If Kathy Scott got hit by a bus tomorrow the countryside would be a better place!

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This quote does my head in.  

Campaigners West Midlands Hunt Saboteurs have welcomed the decision and say: “This means that for now the 908 km² area of West Leicestershire and North Warwickshire are completely hunt free and hundreds of foxes lives will now have been saved

 

Fox hunting has been banned how long, drag hunts take place, yes the loop hole allows a chase if one flushes but to say 'hundreds' is massively miss leading and false information surely. 

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18 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said:

This quote does my head in.  

Campaigners West Midlands Hunt Saboteurs have welcomed the decision and say: “This means that for now the 908 km² area of West Leicestershire and North Warwickshire are completely hunt free and hundreds of foxes lives will now have been saved

 

Fox hunting has been banned how long, drag hunts take place, yes the loop hole allows a chase if one flushes but to say 'hundreds' is massively miss leading and false information surely. 

More for the fox shooters to cull 🦊

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There is no escaping that one day there will be an end to all forms of hunting. They just keep nibbling away locking it down more and more. You never see any thing being relaxed and heading the other way. My grandkids kids will most likely never see a ferret or a fox hound 

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3 hours ago, ShootingEgg said:

Campaigners West Midlands Hunt Saboteurs have welcomed the decision and say: “This means that for now the 908 km² area of West Leicestershire and North Warwickshire are completely hunt free and hundreds of foxes lives will now have been saved

Shows how little they know, if there's no hunting then the farmers and land owners will just let people shoot the foxes.

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More foxes have died post ban than pre ban. Pre ban foxes on hunting estates had a close season and were pretty well looked after. They were fit and healthy foxes because the stupid, slow, sick and injured got killed. It wasnt the most effective form of pest control BUT during lambing time it was a very effective way of targeting an individual fox that was killing lambs. With the advent of NV and thermal foxes get hammered especially on shooting estates where although a pain they always left one or two for the hounds. Im a member of group on FB and they kept tally one month and they shot over 400 foxes in a month! People dont understand animals dont think like humans. They're constantly alert looking for danger but that's their daily survival instinct, if a fox is chased by hounds and gets away he catches his breath and goes back to his day job he doesn't go home and sit in a dark corner needing therapy, they also learn very well so if hes been hunted before and hes within ear shot and hears hounds barking on the wagon or hears the hunting horn hes legged it long before they get to him.

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On ‎10‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 13:25, Benthejockey said:

, More foxes have died post ban than pre ban. Pre ban foxes on hunting estates had a close season and were pretty well looked after. They were fit and healthy foxes because the stupid, slow, sick and injured got killed. It wasnt the most effective form of pest control BUT during lambing time it was a very effective way of targeting an individual fox that was killing lambs. With the advent of NV and thermal foxes get hammered especially on shooting estates where although a pain they always left one or two for the hounds. Im a member of group on FB and they kept tally one month and they shot over 400 foxes in a month! People dont understand animals dont think like humans. They're constantly alert looking for danger but that's their daily survival instinct, if a fox is chased by hounds and gets away he catches his breath and goes back to his day job he doesn't go home and sit in a dark corner needing therapy, they also learn very well so if hes been hunted before and hes within ear shot and hears hounds barking on the wagon or hears the hunting horn hes legged it long before they get to him.

a rifle hunter takes many more foxes than any hunt ( agreed )      I grew up in Ireland in the 70/80where a hunt was the norm then a fox cull came in ,    a fox was worth £25 or £30 a pelt (wages for a tradesman were £150 a week ,)    just about every individual with a house on wheels spent all night driving round shooting of the road  ( against the law )  on the dole / child benefits etc ,     without regard for any farmers property     or after the shot casualties   for a couple of years , then the rats came as no predator  took a few years to get a sustainable   level back  never been repeated to date       , now farmers control  all predication   , on their land whatever the threat while striving towards conservation  (a balanced environment )

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