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We have a 2 bed flat in Cornwall which we have been told needs a new boiler, although actually its working perfectly, but apparently a lot of the spares are unobtainable should it go wrong.

The quote was for a Worcester Bosch,  Its a straight forward in/out replacement, no issues.

Ball park figure how much would you say? before I tell you what the quote is. Remember this is Cornwall where there is two tier pricing for most things.

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No idea £5500 out

Had one a couple of years ago and plumber was running a 22mm gas feed to it I asked why all the large pipe, neighbour's got same boiler and no upgraded pipe.

 

Answer...your neighbour's isnt installed properly then, and if it breaks down warranty is invalid, this was from Bosch Worcester fitter and increases increased warranty to 10yrs,so worth finding out what work they will do.

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Go on line and get a quote for the boiler at plumbcentre and prob has flue inc the kit,then add a £1000 for fitting and commission certificate and warranty.

Last ideal boiler I fitted was £6??  + 1 days labour for change over and gas engineer to do gas etc £50,so under a grand.

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The one job you seem to get charged through the nose for, as an electrician I’ve got lots of gas engineer mates and they’ll all brag and tell you how much they ‘make’ on a boiler change! 1k a day profit for an easy days work if it’s a straightforward swap.
Think it’s a rip off personally, but seems to be the price they charge unless you’re lucky enough to know someone! 

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Really depends on whether it is a "straight swap" or if other work is needed.

Gas supply, flue position, condensate pipe, expansion......could all need altering to meet regs if the boiler has been in a while.

I do more than a fee of these each year and pay my fitters £350 for anything that's not complicated.

Boilers vary in price and change month to month so I usually have a look at all the suppliers for good offers.

This week we have a Baxi Platinum and an Intergas going in. Different fitters will tell you that different brands are the best so take advice from whoever will install and maintain it.

Edd

10 hours ago, vampire said:

Go on line and get a quote for the boiler at plumbcentre and prob has flue inc the kit,then add a £1000 for fitting and commission certificate and warranty.

Last ideal boiler I fitted was £6??  + 1 days labour for change over and gas engineer to do gas etc £50,so under a grand.

This sounds like a common situation where a plumber will install a boiler and a separate Gas Safe engineer will check and sign it off. Be careful. I'm just dealing with the HSE over the same thing as the guy who installed was not gas safe registered it is not permitted.

If he is not registered he can not work on a gas appliance at all regardless of whether it is "signed off" afterwards.

The guy fitting and the one who checked it and signed it off are both in some trouble over it.

 

 

Edd

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13 hours ago, Duckandswing said:

Had straight swap over in my old house. Wb24i, it was £1800 cash. It didn’t take them a full day 

Mrs just had hers done, swap from Ferolli, to a Baxi, so some pipe and flue work, £1600

2 minutes ago, ferguson_tom said:

Why change something if it isn't broken? A quick phone call to the manufacturer with the model number will let you know if they still support it.

Board and electrodes would have been £600 for her Ferolli, no guarantee it would have fixed it, Ferolli are a rubbish boiler anyway. 

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Is it your own flat, or rented out?

We had ours, in the house we rent out, replaced for free; there was a scheme to swap out older equipment for people on benefits, even though we owned the house, not them.

It would have cost £2.5k to stick a Baxi or Bosch in if we'd paid. I wish they'd used an Ideal though TBH as the warranties on the "better" brands are shocking.

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  Sounds like a lot of Southerners getting ripped off here.

Combi/Combi replacement, large house, mornings work ,£1,200 - 1,400

  Anyone charging £1,000 a day for ANY service could do really well in the Nigerian Prince scam too.

  Anyone paying £1,000 a day for ANY service -  I have a bridge to sell you, lovely city center location,

 

RS

 

  PS, any one using British Gas, well,  😂

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2 hours ago, RockySpears said:

  Sounds like a lot of Southerners getting ripped off here.

Combi/Combi replacement, large house, mornings work ,£1,200 - 1,400

  Anyone charging £1,000 a day for ANY service could do really well in the Nigerian Prince scam too.

  Anyone paying £1,000 a day for ANY service -  I have a bridge to sell you, lovely city center location,

 

RS

 

  PS, any one using British Gas, well,  😂

Do you fancy a trip to North Wales - will pay your fuel :D

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On 22/10/2019 at 19:03, Vince Green said:

We have a 2 bed flat in Cornwall which we have been told needs a new boiler, although actually its working perfectly, but apparently a lot of the spares are unobtainable should it go wrong.

 

On 23/10/2019 at 10:00, ferguson_tom said:

Why change something if it isn't broken?

For gawd's sake don't replace the boiler just because the British Gas parts catalogue list a lot of parts as obsolete.  It's a total nonsense.

One 'gas engineer' came to do the annual safety check at my old house that I've rented out.  He showed me his the parts database system they use on his ruggedised tablet.  There were an awful lot of red 'x's on the exploded parts diagram of my boiler, indicating the part was NLA.  Now, my F+E boiler hails from the 80s, <grasps wood, tugs forlock and other supersitious gestures> and is still working, indeed it is combusting cleanly.  It is definitely obsolete, according to British Gas.  The parts are of course harder to come by, but they're still out there.

I am aware it will require replacement someday, indeed I have some funds squirrelled away to replace it. 

But in the OP's case, I wouldn't worry about it.  Maybe hire a local firm, even if you do have to pay 'Emmett' prices to do the annual service and respond to any faults.

 

On 22/10/2019 at 19:28, Konnie said:

Had one a couple of years ago and plumber was running a 22mm gas feed to it I asked why all the large pipe, neighbour's got same boiler and no upgraded pipe.

 

Answer...your neighbour's isnt installed properly then

Apparently the newer combi boilers are very sensitive to pressure drop in a run of 15mm pipe.  When I did get a quote for replacing the aforementioned boiler the 'Gas Engineer' was most insistent that he run 22mm copper anew to the boiler.  Given the modern boilers are festooned with electronics, you'd think some kind of PID loop to adjust the burn due to lower input pressure wouldn't be too hard to economically implement....

The big joke is that we're constantly told not to touch gas appliances as they could kill you.  Both servicing and installation manuals are freely available from the manufacturers in PDF form, and they lay out in simple detail exactly what to do.  And it really isn't rocket surgery.  The actual difficult bit is having access to the more specialist tools, u-tube manometers, combust-o-meters, etc....

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