ditchman Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 Rarely i sit infront of the TV open mouthed............ but last night listening to Trumps crowing speech.....i was totally dumfounded as to his stupidity....he has just taken it to a new level......... well done the USA forces................ but to crow and make remarks "died like a dog etc".....well what can i say..........i think in those 5mins of truly inflamatory remarks and descriptions....ISIS are going to be insensed and spitting blood and feathers...and will retaliate at all costs........ Trumps secrete service and bodyguards must be raising their eyes heavenwards and carping themselves...as to what the potential fall out could be......... stupid stupid man......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 Playing them at their own game Ditchy 👍 they play the same games televising executions and telling how they died like animals etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 I'm quite fond of dogs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, ditchman said: Rarely i sit infront of the TV open mouthed............ but last night listening to Trumps crowing speech.....i was totally dumfounded as to his stupidity....he has just taken it to a new level......... well done the USA forces................ but to crow and make remarks "died like a dog etc".....well what can i say..........i think in those 5mins of truly inflamatory remarks and descriptions....ISIS are going to be insensed and spitting blood and feathers...and will retaliate at all costs........ Trumps secrete service and bodyguards must be raising their eyes heavenwards and carping themselves...as to what the potential fall out could be......... stupid stupid man......... He’s trying to grab the credit, and benefit from reflected glory!........Bit like most politicians, but some do it with more subtlety! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 Poor choice of words but I doubt it will make ISIS more dangerous than what they already are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, old'un said: Poor choice of words but I doubt it will make ISIS more dangerous than what they already are. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, ditchman said: Rarely i sit infront of the TV open mouthed............ Pretty much how me and Mrs Hd were, absolutely gobsmacking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 This al Baghdad I guy has been “killed” by muricans at least a dozen times already, basically just deflecting from their disastrous last few days media thrashing about “leaving” Syria (which they ain’t) and the fact they again let the treacherous Kurds down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 i in someway agree with all of you..........but i will tell you this ...the west can be more single minded and aggressive, more than ISIS could ever be.............but i dont like that retoric that a president of the free world uses....all it does is bring us down to the same level as them.....we should stick to quality and force of arms ...and let them debase themselves further with their retoric.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bavarianbrit Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) How he knew that al Baghdad was squealing/crying at the end of a tunnel when he ignited the vest beats me unless the poor dog that died had a CNN camera strapped onto his back. I do agree that the oval mouthed school playground style of the sneaky presidential wannabe needs to up his game or he will go down as the worst that has ever held the office. Edited October 28, 2019 by bavarianbrit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 hours ago, ditchman said: ...but i dont like that retoric that a president of the free world uses... Interesting, do you still consider him to be the president of the free world? With his nationalist protectionist policies along with dwindling support for NATO, the UN and other international agencies I’m not sure he is. I think there was more tolerance of the foreign policy of the yanks before but I don’t see how they can now claim the same kind of respect or tolerance going forward? Choices have consequences, even for the most powerful man on the planet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Hamster said: This al Baghdad I guy has been “killed” by muricans at least a dozen times already, basically just deflecting from their disastrous last few days media thrashing about “leaving” Syria (which they ain’t) and the fact they again let the treacherous Kurds down. Was he a cat? Sorry, my mistake; they only have nine lives. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 Its as well the soldiers involved, did not dodge the draft like Trump did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted October 29, 2019 Report Share Posted October 29, 2019 6 hours ago, bavarianbrit said: How he knew that al Baghdad was squealing/crying at the end of a tunnel when he ignited the vest beats me unless the poor dog that died had a CNN camera strapped onto his back. The dog would have indeed had a camera on it, and microphone and speaker. Nothing new there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted October 29, 2019 Report Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) I have had political correctness shoved down my throat for the last 12 years of my life. I say they should have hung him upside down from a bridge somewhere. Anyone who thinks that this is going to make ISIS hate the west more then they already do is an idiot. People that get inflamed about this are already out attacking convoys anyway. I hope this does incite ISIS. I hope it brings them out of the woodwork. Edited October 29, 2019 by Teal inappropriate content removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2019 11 hours ago, Raja Clavata said: Interesting, do you still consider him to be the president of the free world? With his nationalist protectionist policies along with dwindling support for NATO, the UN and other international agencies I’m not sure he is. I think there was more tolerance of the foreign policy of the yanks before but I don’t see how they can now claim the same kind of respect or tolerance going forward? Choices have consequences, even for the most powerful man on the planet... i respect the office he holds but not him............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted October 29, 2019 Report Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, ditchman said: i respect the office he holds but not him............. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Wars generate anarchy and out of anarchy comes the Devil. WW1 brought the Bolsheviks to power. It also sowed the seedbed for the Nazis. The Vietnam war opened the door for the lunatics of the Khmer Rouge. Al Qaeda was an offshoot of the Mujahadeen of the Russian war in Afghanistan. ISIS was spawned in Camp Bucca ,and is a first generation child of the American invasion and destruction of the state of Iraq. And so it goes. But without wars and the dysfunction they cause these kind of people never make it out of their boxes. So the answer is simple really. If you don't want to have to deal with the nut jobs and fanatics, don't go around the place smashing up functioning societies and reducing them to anarchy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonSalop Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, Retsdon said: Wars generate anarchy and out of anarchy comes the Devil. WW1 brought the Bolsheviks to power. It also sowed the seedbed for the Nazis. The Vietnam war opened the door for the lunatics of the Khmer Rouge. Al Qaeda was an offshoot of the Mujahadeen of the Russian war in Afghanistan. ISIS was spawned in Camp Bucca ,and is a first generation child of the American invasion and destruction of the state of Iraq. And so it goes. But without wars and the dysfunction they cause these kind of people never make it out of their boxes. So the answer is simple really. If you don't want to have to deal with the nut jobs and fanatics, don't go around the place smashing up functioning societies and reducing them to anarchy. An excellent set of observations. But of course, we have a God-given right to the oil. And so we will continue to cause havoc for anyone who might threaten the oil supply. Johnny Foreigner really ought to know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 I agree but do people think it'll all stop if / when we remove our dependency on fossil fuels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Nope, there`s always something to rob from someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonSalop Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: I agree but do people think it'll all stop if / when we remove our dependency on fossil fuels? If there's money at stake, then of course not. History proves this time and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 On 30/10/2019 at 12:37, Retsdon said: Wars generate anarchy and out of anarchy comes the Devil. WW1 brought the Bolsheviks to power. It also sowed the seedbed for the Nazis. The Vietnam war opened the door for the lunatics of the Khmer Rouge. Al Qaeda was an offshoot of the Mujahadeen of the Russian war in Afghanistan. ISIS was spawned in Camp Bucca ,and is a first generation child of the American invasion and destruction of the state of Iraq. And so it goes. But without wars and the dysfunction they cause these kind of people never make it out of their boxes. So the answer is simple really. If you don't want to have to deal with the nut jobs and fanatics, don't go around the place smashing up functioning societies and reducing them to anarchy. Absolutely true but it won't stop as the perpetrators think they know best are entitled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, chilly1981 said: You think Iraq was a functioning society before well functioning socities don’t gas whole villages of there own people or have people that scared of you they won’t speak to you because there’s a picture of the boss man still standing and worried that a black bmw will pull up offer them a lift never to be seen again and a massive amount of the fighters in Iraq were actually foreign fighters not Iraqis Guess who sold them the gas ? You Wozn’t complaining when they dropped chemicals (the West had sold them) on the heads of Iranians ! A massive amount of fighters in the Middle East right now are foreign insurgents and illegal combatants (under international law) I might add. The US is in Syria completely illegally and devoid of a UN mandate, Trump is now on record as saying they’re there to “secure” the oil of a sovereign country. Oh but to know a few actual facts instead of ingrained myths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, chilly1981 said: No ingrained myths here I was some of the first boots on the ground here in Iraq and I’ve been working here as a civi for the past 14 years Oh, did you find any WMD ? What are you still doing there then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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