Scully Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 I hope I’m wrong but I’m predicting it’s labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Tory landslide, the British public cant be fooled by Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Cons with a tiny majority, then back to the same old same old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yates Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 No score draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 35 minutes ago, muncher said: Tory landslide, the British public cant be fooled by Labour. With the addition of a massive SNP collapse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Small Tory majority (small being about 10 to 15 seats). Labour loose a few seats, mainly in the north Lib Dems - loose a very small number where people have defected from other parties SNP about where they are now, possibly slightly down, Plaid Cymru about where they are now. Greens - same 1 seat they have held before Brexit party - none (as UKIP before them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Tory reckon Brexit Party will grab a few Lib "Dems" wiped out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 if the brexiteers .........sideline the brexit party and vote con ....it will be a very good majority....if they dont it will be the same old same old or hung ...or labour....... i dont think a lot of people will make their mind up until the last second....it will be ..."what the hell"....make an "X" and scuttle off........... at the moment the polls are predicting much the same as we have now......and folk realise that if it continues it will be yet another 3-4 years of the utter carp we have now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 I believe the predictions made by others previously that a GE will solve nothing will likely prove to be right. I can see the Tories getting a small majority which will crumble once the true intent of their plans for Brexit unravel. Back to square one unfortunately. A bit like deja vu all over again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, ditchman said: if the brexiteers .........sideline the brexit party and vote con ....it will be a very good majority....if they dont it will be the same old same old or hung ...or labour....... i dont think a lot of people will make their mind up until the last second....it will be ..."what the hell"....make an "X" and scuttle off........... at the moment the polls are predicting much the same as we have now......and folk realise that if it continues it will be yet another 3-4 years of the utter carp we have now.... Much truth in that. I think though - the 'presently undecided' will end up roughly in line with present 'decided' percentages, so the result will be along the lines of the opinion polls - a small Tory majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Well, irrespective of anyone's feelings on Brexit, Indyref2 etc etc any vote other than Conservative is in effect one more vote towards putting Corbyn in no.10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Thunderbird said: is in effect one more vote towards putting Corbyn in no.10. which will be deeply harming to shooting and fieldsports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) Aye, true that. Probably fishing too. Edited December 11, 2019 by Thunderbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, Thunderbird said: Well, irrespective of anyone's feelings on Brexit, Indyref2 etc etc any vote other than Conservative is in effect one more vote towards putting Corbyn in no.10. How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ditchman said: if the brexiteers .........sideline the brexit party and vote con ....it will be a very good majority....if they dont it will be the same old same old or hung ...or labour....... i dont think a lot of people will make their mind up until the last second....it will be ..."what the hell"....make an "X" and scuttle off........... at the moment the polls are predicting much the same as we have now......and folk realise that if it continues it will be yet another 3-4 years of the utter carp we have now.... I think you are right. Do people vote for an obvious (Tory?) majority to at least get something moving and avoid the current situation. Latest polls say c.25 seat Tory majority but to allow for error/variances either way, it could be a bigger majority or a hung parliament. Goes to show how tight it is and the fact that it's so hard to predict. I'm no fan of Boris, but can't stand Corbyn and the sooner the Labour party get rid of him the more competitive they will become. The amount of fake news/smear campaigns etc by ALL parties has been really bad (and more American) this year. Shame on all of them. This is the least comfortable I have been in `supporting` a party for many years. Edited December 11, 2019 by hedge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, JohnfromUK said: which will be deeply harming to shooting and fieldsports. How any field sports supporter or their allied trades could vote for Labour is beyond me! The Labour Party ceased to be the Labour Party when Bliar and his “New” Labour crowd got into no 10! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: How so? If the Conservatives don't gain an overall majority, who will be Prime Minister? It will either be Corbyn with a Labour Majority or Corbyn in a Labour-led coalition. The only other alternative is something more or less what we have now, then another GE (probably) in February. The Tories only have one chance, and that's an overall majority, whereas labour have at least two bites, majority or coalition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 A Corbin run government with the BBC and Packham at his side god forbid we would all be screwed , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 im hopin brexit party wipe these 2 labour ones in st helens,bin labour since 1935. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Thunderbird said: If the Conservatives don't gain an overall majority, who will be Prime Minister? Good question! Johnson has probably no likely allies now the DUP are no longer 'on side'. Hence if he doesn't get a majority, he will in effect be powerless as he will get nothing through the commons. Corbyn will not get a majority (would need to gain over 100 seats which isn't going to happen) but could get 'propped up' by SNP, LibDem, Greens, and at least some of the 'former Labour' MPs. If we look at this; SNP will vote for much of the hard left stuff McDonnell, Corbyn, Abbott, Pidcock and others want IF they are granted a second Scotland referendum - and will support lowering the voting age. LibDem will support any leave activities and also reducing voting age to 16, but not the harder lefty (such as nationalisation) issues. Green (who are very lefty) will support Labour and will also support voter age reduction Labour cabinet will be nearly all Remainers who will campaign for Remain in any future referendum So we have a Corbyn minority who will be able to do almost nothing other than NHS spending, lowering voting age and TWO new referendums, Scotland Independance and Leave under a new Corbyn (stay in Customs Union and Single Market) 'leave' deal or Remain. Results; Voting age will be reduced to 16 Scotland will vote again with lower voter age on leaving the Union UK will remain in the EU Voting age will be 16 making a Labour majority much more likely in any General Election - which will follow soon afterwards. That will lead to a Labour Majority and all the lefty lunacy that McDonnell, Corbyn, Abbott, Pidcock want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 I hope to god it is Con win otherwise sell your guns quickly and leave the country. JC has pledged to get rid of guns; he hate the Royals, landowners, wealth (part from his own), the Armed Forces and in the Labour Manifesto he wants to turn Grouse Moors and the Highlands into National Parks thus removing shooting and fishing etc from wealthy landowners. How can anyone vote for someone who loves the IRA, Hammas and ***** Dianne Abbot??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 wealth (part from his own), sounds like that other well know Labour ex pm who has a personal fortune of over £30m ,remember all men are equal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, norfolk dumpling said: sell your guns quickly The market would collapse if that were followed. Only the 'best' would be exportable - the rest would in effect be worthless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Thunderbird said: If the Conservatives don't gain an overall majority, who will be Prime Minister? It will either be Corbyn with a Labour Majority or Corbyn in a Labour-led coalition. The only other alternative is something more or less what we have now, then another GE (probably) in February. The Tories only have one chance, and that's an overall majority, whereas labour have at least two bites, majority or coalition. And that would be of the Conservatives own doing. Boris has gone for win or bust. But if the UK public really "want Brexit done" then Boris has nothing to fear, he'll walk it in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: The market would collapse if that were followed. Only the 'best' would be exportable - the rest would in effect be worthless. Remember Dunblain they were quick enough to erraditcate all legally held weapons and put countless people out of work for what was no more than a callous vote winning exercise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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