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i am re-building and re guilding (24 carrot) a early victorian copy of a Louise 14th french chiming clock.....white marble and gold cherubs swags and outriggers.....but one of the cherubs hands is bust....its not bronze (like the original) it is a spelter or copperey type of pot metal........the break dosnt carry weight as the cherubs are bolted to the base...

so what i intend to do is to drill it out ...put a steel shaft/pin in it ....and use some metal paste glue and lightly clamp it together

 

 

WHAT GLUE PASTE DO I NEED.....................

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13 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

What about soldering it?

not putting any heat near it....dont want to even try to solder it...pin it and glue using a metal paste....smooth it over and re-guild......

13 minutes ago, JJsDad said:

Loctite 638 would hold it particully with a steel pin, not sure how it takes with a spelter type material.

the pin will be spayed out and the holes accordingly....

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As Dougy said. Defcon putty or one of the liquid metals. Defcon is good and I have used it for bedding rifles but its not cheap and obtaining a small qty might prove difficult.

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Your certainly turn you hand to many different projects Simon 👍

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Epoxy resin.

Most of the Devcon products are epoxy resin based with additives.

Edited by old'un

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There is no point in using Devcon containing steel for what you are doing and its expensive for the small amount you will need, Araldite epoxy resin will do the job just fine or as said JB weld (which is epoxy resin containing a fine metal powder)

 

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10 minutes ago, ditchman said:

i will post a few pics up to show what i need to do if anyone is interested...........

Yes I am, have you done any gilding before?

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1 hour ago, ditchman said:

i will post a few pics up to show what i need to do if anyone is interested...........

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should have taken some pics a few days ago cause it was mingin..........history is i bought it 20 odd years ago...it is a early victorian copy of a french louis 14th mantel clock..its made from smelter/copper pot metal ....NOT BRONZE...it was bust when i bought it for pennies and some one ...folk ...had over the years 

  1. painted it
  2. guilded it (without size)
  3. guilded it with wieird size...(almost like a latex
  4. painted it

the marble was yellow...........i poo you not it was skip material.....all i did to it then was take to the clock person to have it checked and cleaned...since then it has been in various sheds

i have stripped it back...just the cherubs to the original surface...there are bare patches which i will recover...i will try not to do too much.....i have cleaned the marble on the outriggers and re-assembled them but the metal work needs cleaning down to original as it is all choked up and lost its definition...

if i remember i will take pics as i go along

 

 

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I'd use JB Weld. Put a little on each surface and push well together.

TIP ... Have some acetone (nail polish remover) to hand and wipe excess resin off with that on a cotton bud or tissue as soon as you can. White spirit etc won't touch the stuff, but acetone will leave the surfaces clean and ready to take the top-finish.

Edited by Longstrider

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45 minutes ago, figgy said:

Chemical metal is what I'd use, can file it paint it dri.it tap it, it just works.

right i will do that.............just got the size (glue) this morning ....better than the last lot i bought....so i will get on with it and proberly post a few pics up ?

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Another vote for JB Weld. Can be bought on Evilbay at a reasonable price. I find I use it for all sorts and the two tubes last for ages.

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