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I see Tony B. Liar is spouting his carp again.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/18/tony-blair-urges-labour-to-ditch-jeremy-corbyn-misguided-ideology

They as a party have to accept the problem, remove him and the Momentum group and START AGAIN to regain the trust of the ordinary working man.

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2 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

I see Tony B. Liar is spouting his carp again.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/18/tony-blair-urges-labour-to-ditch-jeremy-corbyn-misguided-ideology

They as a party have to accept the problem, remove him and the Momentum group and START AGAIN to regain the trust of the ordinary working man.

Alan Johnson nailed it, 'student politics'.

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I'm with Yellow Bear - there was a time when the Labour Party stood for a set of values that people could relate to, now lost.   Sometimes an organisation is so fundamentally screwed up that no one wants to admit that the personalities involved are no longer suitable for leadership - that's the Labour party.

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They assume that voters will blindly believe what they are promised or told. How wrong they have been proven to be. The average voter (no matter left or right) is better educated and informed than for example, the tribal voter of the 70's. And yet there's a paradox there - no-one believes Boris when he keeps up the mantra of "400 hospitals" etc. And yet we (including me) knowing this, still voted for him. I'm now trying to work out if I'm even more stupid than HRH thinks I am......

Blair is right - the party needs to accept the fact that UK population will not vote in a hard-left government. Rip it up and start again. Hopefully it will take them a couple of years to come up with something, thus allowing Boris an unimpeded run at getting stuff done.

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50 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

I see Tony B. Liar is spouting his carp again.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/18/tony-blair-urges-labour-to-ditch-jeremy-corbyn-misguided-ideology

They as a party have to accept the problem, remove him and the Momentum group and START AGAIN to regain the trust of the ordinary working man.

Not a Blair fan but he is just telling it as it is, Corbyn and his left-wing cronies need to go if Labour are to stand any chance of being electable.

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37 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

I see Tony B. Liar is spouting his carp again.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/18/tony-blair-urges-labour-to-ditch-jeremy-corbyn-misguided-ideology

They as a party have to accept the problem, remove him and the Momentum group and START AGAIN to regain the trust of the ordinary working man.

Not surprising he would say this. After all, he emerged from nowhere as the moderate face of Labour when the last bunch of loony lefties were purged by the party.

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He also acknowledged that the Labour party not accepting the result of the 2016 referendum was a significant contributor in their loss, quite insightful really given his ardent campaigning and posturing against that result ever since it was announced 🤔

Raises many a question.

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2 hours ago, Penelope said:

Alan Johnson nailed it, 'student politics'.

Absolutely 100%   Alan Johnson, regardless of your views on his political leanings has always been a traditional Socialist and personally I believe he would make a good Leader but I hope they elect Thornberry and we can rest assured of another Conservative win in 5yrs time.

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9 hours ago, old'un said:

Not a Blair fan but he is just telling it as it is, Corbyn and his left-wing cronies need to go if Labour are to stand any chance of being electable.

He certainly is. It's amusing and Blair has commented himself, that they are unwilling to listen to the advice of the only man in the last 45 years to bring Labour an election victory.

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