Wooder Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Rewulf said: If meat is so bad... Why is vegan and veggie food made to look and taste like it? 😏 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 23 hours ago, NatureBoy said: If any publicity around it highlights a lot of vegan and LACS double standards it's got to be good. Only people that will benefit from them are the few big food and nutrition companies that want to control the food chain! NB I don't see any double standards from LACS, unless I'm missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, islandgun said: I read that he was sacked for pointing out that LACS had a pension fund that invested in companies involved in animal testing... why as a charity do LACS have pensions.. i also wonder how much the charity pays the staff......from donations The fact that LACS were investing in the pension funds of companies that were involved in animal testing was (he claims) against his ethical vegan philosophy! LACS were not investing in their own, but in other companies pension schemes......I don’t know if they have a pension scheme! If you google “charity chief executives salary/expenses” you’ll see it’s common for charities to pay their employees a kings ransom in salary/exes....that’s why I no longer donate to most charities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooder Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 Be careful s what you say because you might get a cabbage or cucumber hung on your garden gate 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Wooder said: Be careful s what you say because you might get a cabbage or cucumber hung on your garden gate 😂 😅😅😅😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Thanks Ditchy, I had lost track with all of the excitement over veggies. I never dreamed that veggies would be able to make Law, to peel and slice will be an offence as the kitchen may become designated a Public Place? I am tempter to ponder what our founding fathers would think of this progress? Can someone please explain to this old thing how a single ruling by an employment tribunal can affect Law? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Veganism is what we used to call "a fad". That is all it is. There have been lots of 'fads' about food related things - some are based in fact, others just 'crank ideas' that get 'celebrity' publicity, usually from a so called celebrity no one has ever heard of. Back in the 70's there was a big fad against animal fats and dairy (we were supposed to use Flora and similar instead) and to eat polyunsaturates instead. This was discredited. Certain religions have food restrictions, some (Buddhists I believe?) and some don't eat certain meat types (Jews, Muslims, Hindus). That is a different matter. Different cultures eat different meats - for example the French eat horse meat, but most British wouldn't (knowingly anyway), the Japanese eat whale - and again many other nations wouldn't for either conservation reasons, or because it isn't to their tastes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouser Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 I wonder who paid the legal costs, its not cheap going to any sort of tribunal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Just now, scouser said: I wonder who paid the legal costs, its not cheap going to any sort of tribunal The losers will have paid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 According to some legal eagle on the news it won’t actually make much difference at all and is largely a horn trumpeting issue - they posed the idea that a butcher decides to become an ethical vegan and therefore decides they can’t handle meat, but then you can’t sack them as they are following their ethical beliefs - he believed previous precedent on similar cases shows that you could sack them as they had effectively rendered themselves unable to perform the job im sure some lawyers will make some coin which is ultimately what these matters always descend into Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 this ruling is going to open a can of worms......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, ditchman said: this ruling is going to open a can of worms......................... It will have to be a can of bean's worm's are not vegan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 hours ago, scouser said: I wonder who paid the legal costs, its not cheap going to any sort of tribunal I believe he has crowd funded his case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) Vegans. As long as you don't employ or **** one, does it matter what their beliefs are? Edited January 4, 2020 by amateur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Surely religion needs some sort of diety or group of them? Or a point of origins. Even the scientology lot (😂🤣😂🤣) worship to some "greater beings". Its all a bit pointless I'm my humble, we are products of our environment, and while "life as we know it" may be restricted to this planet, life as we can't yet comprehend more than likely exists all over our galaxy and the further universe. Not looking to rattle anyone's beliefs but going to Holy war over who's messiah was the invisible sky mans best mate is pointless to the extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 10 hours ago, B725 said: It will have to be a can of bean's worm's are not vegan. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 This philosophical belief thing is an interesting one. There was a case last year where (if I recall correctly) basic vegetarianism was ruled not to be such. The tribunals will have to continue making decisions on this, some of which will affect future law/decisions, and some won't. Last year also, a doctor tried to sue his ex-employer saying that he was discriminated against because (due to his Christian beliefs) he felt unable to refer to a man as a woman. He went down the religious discrimination route, which in my opinion was never going to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Thunderbird said: Last year also, a doctor tried to sue his ex-employer saying that he was discriminated against because (due to his Christian beliefs) he felt unable to refer to a man as a woman. He went down the religious discrimination route, which in my opinion was never going to work. Depends on the religion I suppose ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGoose75 Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) Don't know if anyone has seen John Bishops- Australia series! I happened to catch an episode late at night (probably a repeat) over Christmas. Now I didn't know Bishop was a Vegan/Vegetarian which ever he is. Apparently he was in an abattoir as a child and the sight of a carcass revolted him hence his dicission to not eat meat. In this episode he visited a Crocodile farm and was present in the abattoir with Crocs hanging dead ready for processing. The owner of the farm put across very well how his farm is actually saving the species (I think Saltwater Crocodile) and gave Bishop a whole new train of thought. Well worth a watch if anyone can find it! I also just found out "Meatloaf" is also a Vegan. Think there is a bit of Irony in that somehow. Edited January 6, 2020 by SuperGoose75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 8 hours ago, SuperGoose75 said: I also just found out "Meatloaf" is also a Vegan. Think there is a bit of Irony in that somehow. It's Meat Loaf, he is legally Mr Loaf! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGoose75 Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 27 minutes ago, Mr_Nobody said: It's Meat Loaf, he is legally Mr Loaf! Fair enough! Although a quick google reveals it was a resemblence to "the flesh of an animal'' as a baby that the name Meat derived from! Apparently Frankie and Benny approached him and tried to get him to change his name to "Veg Loaf". Put off meat after being served a rabbit with head intact and ears missing in a restaurant.🥩🥖🐰. Had to go back to eating meat because of health problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, SuperGoose75 said: Apparently Frankie and Benny approached him and tried to get him to change his name to "Veg Loaf". Put off meat after being served a rabbit with head intact and ears missing in a restaurant.🥩🥖🐰. Had to go back to eating meat because of health problems. lol Didn't know that. It's funny, I wouldn't go into a butchers as a kid. I didn't like handling raw meat when I first started cooking for myself. But never has it crossed my mind to be vegetarian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 I wonder how many ethical vegans will refuse a drug that is needed to save their life because it has been tested on animals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 Also bear in mind he hasn't established yet that he was actually dismissed for holding the belief, all it is at this stage is that it's been accepted by the court that it amounts to a philosophical belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 I'm told that if you start going on veggie or vegan websites you will soon start getting unsolicited emails from all sorts of protest groups like extinction rebellion and animal rights. Probably momentum etc as well. I see it as a recruiting portal and there may be a hidden agenda. Adults may see it for what it is but kids are more easily drawn in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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