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Hi all just a quick question, a couple weeks ago I purchased a new hatsan escort extreme and have been very pleased with it, it so far has cycled everything I’ve put through it including my go to woodcock load eley impax, however The other day I had just got over a style so had took the cartridge out of the chamber and then when I was over I opened the bolt dropped it back in and hit the release, not a second later a woodcock flushes from a holly tree but when I went to shoot there was just a click! At the end of the day I tested it and fired it a few times and everything was going through fine, question is if what I’m assuming was the bolt not seating all the way, is this something that can be remedied by just lightly tapping it after I’ve hit the release

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Would just lightly tapping the charging handle do that? forget to say as well it happened the very first time I went to shoot it, other than that it’s been spot on, bet that woodcock thinks it’s good as well haha

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Well I have to say I wouldn't use a semi-auto on woodcock!

 

 

Can't find the tongue in cheek smiley.

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6 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Well I have to say I wouldn't use a semi-auto.

 

 

Can't find the tongue in cheek smiley.

I’ve corrected your post for you.

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The outstanding question from your description is what went `click` when you attempted to shoot the Woodcock ?

A bit surprised if it was the hammer going forward because most self-loaders have an inbuilt mechanical safety that prevents the hammer moving forward and striking the firing pin until the breech is closed and locked.

If the gun is clean & properly lubricated you shouldnt need to `forward-assist`every time you chamber a cartridge. Certainly on a gun less than a month old.

Edited by JJsDad

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13 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Well I have to say I wouldn't use a semi-auto on woodcock!

Can't find the tongue in cheek smiley.

 

7 minutes ago, London Best said:

I’ve corrected your post for you.

Oh but I would, I have SxS's O/U's A Pump-Action and a couple of Semi-Autos.

But I would use a Churchill style SxS for woodcock.

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When you’re loading are you using the bolt release button and letting the bolt slam home , they are designed for this but I know one or two people hold the charging handle and slide it forward thinking it’s kinder for the gun so it doesn’t seat correctly,  if not I would pull it down and give it a good clean 

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13 minutes ago, spurs 14 said:

When you’re loading are you using the bolt release button and letting the bolt slam home , they are designed for this but I know one or two people hold the charging handle and slide it forward thinking it’s kinder for the gun so it doesn’t seat correctly,  if not I would pull it down and give it a good clean 

I let it slam using the release button, I’ve stripped and cleaned it after the last 2 times I’ve been out as it was a bit wet and rainy, could I possibly have over lubed? 

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Wouldn’t have thought so , I’ve found the hatsans to be solid and reliable if it’s not seating when slamming forward I’d say something is a little amiss ,I’d return it to dealer and let them have a look or return to importer , think it’s Edgar bros , if it’s working when you push bolt forward can’t thing much is wrong snagging on something if the slide and bolt assy are clean , oily ? Pop back to your dealer 

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5 hours ago, mudpatten said:

Since the gun is brand new, did you thoroughly degrease it when you took it out of the box?

 

Ahhh I didn’t, do you mean just with like a rag or?

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Strip it fully de grease with white spirit or gun solvent. Lube the recoil spring tube and slide rails reassemble and it should work much better.

I've not had a new semi automatic that would cycle light carts from new dry, they all faltered after a couple of shots.

Edited by figgy

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The main issue is that the modern grease that the gun is coated with when it leaves the factory is not like the old fashioned stuff whose thick, gunky presence was plainly evident.

This stuff is barely noticeable but it covers all the metal parts and needs more than a wipe over to remove.

As Figgy says, use white spirit, meths, acetone or similar. You might be pleasantly surprised by the difference this makes. And "strip" means disassemble right down as far as the manual illustrtates since all the parts will be greased as the gun is finally asembled before it leaves the factory.

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