ShootingEgg Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Any one here know if I'm thinking right. Just moved into a 30/40's built, and have the below installed in the front door frame. Getting a new door so need to move/remove it. To start I'm going to use a connector block so I have a phone line, then put a small hole though the outside wall so that I can feed the cable in and straight into a socket box for phone and router. I think it is a fuse block for houses that share elec on same pole as phone and areas at risk of lightning strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Doesn't look like anything to do with phone to me. If it is its probably obsolete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diver One Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) Stick volt meter across the blue and orange should be about. 50v DC if is still,in service BUT it could be disconnected at the exchange or local cabinet/DP more chance of it being a ceased line if has the fuses in it though EDIT put meter across the bottom side of the fuses orange white Edited January 19, 2020 by Diver One Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratchers Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 This is a very old style connector block. The orange and white wires are your telephone line feed(green & black are spare), 50volts. No reason why you cant route these through the wall straight in to a master socket(if the cable is long enough) BT will charge to move or reroute any cable if this is a working line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, ratchers said: BT will charge to move or reroute any cable if this is a working line. I believe they won't because it is legacy kit - they will provision a new Master Socket to your house. Any wiring after this internal will be at a price, or do it yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussexboy Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 That is a really old connecting box, if I recall correctly it dates back to the days of open wires. The wiring that goes to the bottom of the fuses in your picture looks like the incoming drop wire from the pole. The top cable is the old 4-wire that goes to the phone and any other internal phone wiring you have. You can replace this connecting box with a BT80A box, but your 4-wire must connect to a master socket on the other end or else your phone line will have no protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 whatever you do Dont cut the white one before you cut the green one !💥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) im on bt and never seen a box like that, its very old. call bt and they should renew it.or see what they say. the orange and blue is the main feed.on the a and b leg. Edited January 20, 2020 by mossy835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussexboy Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 hours ago, mossy835 said: im on bt and never seen a box like that, its very old. call bt and they should renew it.or see what they say. the orange and blue is the main feed.on the a and b leg. I was on BT back in the eighties. We usually saw those boxes when we were taking out the old 232 and 332 phones and swapping them for something more “modern”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leach Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Odd bt boxes not like that could be early cable type Just had a closer look at it it's got 2 fuses in it with a wiring in one's green could a earth wire brown negative or posative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 37 minutes ago, Sussexboy said: I was on BT back in the eighties. We usually saw those boxes when we were taking out the old 232 and 332 phones and swapping them for something more “modern”. This is a 30's built house, the elec feed to it is cut, I dropped it off wall this eve, have bypassed it so that the new front door can be installed tomorrow as it was drilled through the door frame.. Same as the mains elec supply that western power are coming out to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leach Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just hope the mistry is sovled with westren power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, Leach said: Just hope the mistry is sovled with westren power No power to it, def was the phone line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Few more images of how not to wire into a house haha. Taken the phone connecter out but power will have to be western power. No way I'm playing with that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diver One Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Looks more like a1/2 TRS ( tough rubber sheathed) black twin and earth cables to me fastened with 1960s style buckle clips. Most like a private circuit and not Weatern Powers. But it's very hard to tell from the pic . What makes you think it's WPs? Does it come from their pole outside? just curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Diver One said: Looks more like a1/2 TRS ( tough rubber sheathed) black twin and earth cables to me fastened with 1960s style buckle clips. Most like a private circuit and not Weatern Powers. But it's very hard to tell from the pic . What makes you think it's WPs? Does it come from their pole outside? just curious Yeah it's come in from outside and off pole onto house, then one going back out to an outside light I believe Edited January 21, 2020 by ShootingEgg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 If it's rubber insulated power/lighting wiring, it should be replaced. The rubber deteriorates and can be a hazard. If the whole house is wired in rubber cable, this can be quite a big job, but I suspect will be required (I had to 100% rewire). Rubber will be probably 40 years old or more. Get it checked. http://proman-electrical.co.uk/estimate-your-wiring-age/ http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Historic_Mains_Cables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 4 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: If it's rubber insulated power/lighting wiring, it should be replaced. The rubber deteriorates and can be a hazard. If the whole house is wired in rubber cable, this can be quite a big job, but I suspect will be required (I had to 100% rewire). Rubber will be probably 40 years old or more. Get it checked. http://proman-electrical.co.uk/estimate-your-wiring-age/ http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Historic_Mains_Cables Already on it, we did first fix this weekend so all new cables in, the rubber is screwed... Hoping WPD will replace the mains in as that will be as old. And brittle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Already on it, we did first fix this weekend so all new cables in, the rubber is screwed... Hoping WPD will replace the mains in as that will be as old. And brittle When mine was done Western Power (or at least their contractor) replaced everything from the underground cable to the meter and main fuse. Everything after that was done by my contractor. Most of my old rubber wire appeared in good condition, but a few parts where it had been near warm heating pipes was hardened. Mine would have been installed originally in the late 1950s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted January 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: When mine was done Western Power (or at least their contractor) replaced everything from the underground cable to the meter and main fuse. Everything after that was done by my contractor. Most of my old rubber wire appeared in good condition, but a few parts where it had been near warm heating pipes was hardened. Mine would have been installed originally in the late 1950s. Ive been told the house is 30's and also post war 1947 as its built on an old tank yard.. Would be interesting history if true. Going to do some goigling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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