oldypigeonpopper Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 On 11/02/2020 at 17:24, Scully said: 😀 ‘Yorkshire‘ tea no doubt! hello, i think your right, and that actor ? waving a sword about what the blank is that all about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i think your right, and that actor ? waving a sword about what the blank is that all about Can’t say I’ve seen that one. Who is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Crumbs...... greedy celebrities, who would have thought it.. ban gambling adverts, does no one take responsibility for their actions anymore.. it'll be dont advertise meat and dairy products next ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) Being devil’s advocate, why should gambling adverts be banned? We have a growing tendency in this country to take a view that legislation is the answer to resolving our issues. I don’t for a second try to trivialise the impact that problem gambling does and can have, but with the rate of problem gambling in this country being 0.7% of the population, but with 46% of the population gambling within the last 4 weeks (Gambling Commission statistics) why would we want to implement legislation because of a tiny minority? Gambling is evidently (in the literal sense of that word) enjoyed by a very big percentage of the population without it being an issue, so why should that industry not be allowed to advertise responsibly? IG frames the argument rather well in the post above, if something, i.e. meat eating, falls foul of the rather ambiguous assessment of the public conscience should we ban that or ban the advertisement of it and hasten it’s demise? We do seem ever so eager to try and implement rules based on the extreme ends of arguments and it is quite frankly dumb. We sleep walk into a totalitarian regime willingly ceding our freedoms amidst a clamour to be righteous. Edited February 12, 2020 by grrclark Because i type like a pig with only one trotter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, Scully said: Can’t say I’ve seen that one. Who is it? hello, Sean Bean, maybe the Yorkshire Tea Company think he will boost sales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Ta. Must admit I haven’t see that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, Scully said: Can’t say I’ve seen that one. Who is it? Sean Bean. I guess it's a bit of a pee take on his part in Game of Thrones and the success of that story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Scully said: Ta. Must admit I haven’t see that one. You really, really don't, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 hello, do not forget the repeat fees, there are so many on the BBC it must cost £millions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, Penelope said: Sean Bean. I guess it's a bit of a pee take on his part in Game of Thrones and the success of that story. Ah, I see. According to friends, I think I may be the only person in the UK who hasn’t watched a single episode. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Was he in game of thrones? My take was sharp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Scully said: Ah, I see. According to friends, I think I may be the only person in the UK who hasn’t watched a single episode. 🙂 There are a small band of us, but it does seem to be a very small band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, grrclark said: There are a small band of us, but it does seem to be a very small band Add another to the band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, islandgun said: Add another to the band A band of good people i reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, islandgun said: Add another to the band That’s three of us then! 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, islandgun said: Add another to the band plus another one👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 hours ago, grrclark said: Being devil’s advocate, why should gambling adverts be banned? We have a growing tendency in this country to take a view that legislation is the answer to resolving our issues. I don’t for a second try to trivialise the impact that problem gambling does and can have, but with the rate of problem gambling in this country being 0.7% of the population, but with 46% of the population gambling within the last 4 weeks (Gambling Commission statistics) why would we want to implement legislation because of a tiny minority? Gambling is evidently (in the literal sense of that word) enjoyed by a very big percentage of the population without it being an issue, so why should that industry not be allowed to advertise responsibly? IG frames the argument rather well in the post above, if something, i.e. meat eating, falls foul of the rather ambiguous assessment of the public conscience should we ban that or ban the advertisement of it and hasten it’s demise? We do seem ever so eager to try and implement rules based on the extreme ends of arguments and it is quite frankly dumb. We sleep walk into a totalitarian regime willingly ceding our freedoms amidst a clamour to be righteous. Oh thank God I'm not alone! I was just in the midst of posting a reply as to why the establishment shouldn't have control of advertising and then I thought "Nah what's the point?". Then I read this! If you want a nanny state then this is how you get one. Pander to the few who can't control their impulses and punish those who can. I do accept that banning tobacco advertising is a good thing, simply because it is so addictive, both physically and mentally. Gambling though is not. I've gambled since I was a kid. I remember backing Red Rum in the National when I was just a kid. It was always a great day in my family, everyone had a bet and it was always a topic for conversation. I remember spending days with my grandparents where I would play cribbage and watch the horse racing to see if my 5p round robins would come in. Great fun, fond memories. I still have a flutter now and then. I like to play cards too. I never gamble more than I can afford, it's just a bit of fun. Going slightly off topic, I listen to Radio 1 at work. The latest Eminem track is playing but it is heavily censored. All of the swearing is removed which I'm fine with, it's daytime radio after all. However, removing words like alcohol, vodka and Courvoisier, seriously, are we at that level now where we can't mention anything that is potentially harmful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Scully said: I think I may be the only person in the UK who hasn’t watched a single episode. 🙂 And me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted February 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 The thread is not about banning gambling or the advertising of gambling.Its about celebrities promoting gambling and the possibility of influencing people to gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 34 minutes ago, Mr_Nobody said: Going slightly off topic, I listen to Radio 1 at work. The latest Eminem track is playing but it is heavily censored. All of the swearing is removed which I'm fine with, it's daytime radio after all. However, removing words like alcohol, vodka and Courvoisier, seriously, are we at that level now where we can't mention anything that is potentially harmful? That’s what worries me too, we are at a tipping point where our pursuit of being righteous and right on has the very real potential of taking us backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Davyo said: The thread is not about banning gambling or the advertising of gambling.Its about celebrities promoting gambling and the possibility of influencing people to gamble. Again being devils advocate, so what? If a razor blade company or a soap company can use a celeb why can’t a gambling company? So long as the advert is responsible and doesn’t make false claim then why shouldn’t a celeb promote a bookmaker over say a boot-maker (just for the alliteration). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Davyo said: The thread is not about banning gambling or the advertising of gambling.Its about celebrities promoting gambling and the possibility of influencing people to gamble. Like celebrities promoting countryside activities and the possibility of influencing people to kill animals. So why don't we just stop everybody from promoting anything, as there is always going to be somebody out there who will be against something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, toontastic said: Like celebrities promoting countryside activities and the possibility of influencing people to kill animals. So why don't we just stop everybody from promoting anything, as there is always going to be somebody out there who will be against something. So are you protesting about Davyo protesting? With regard to "celebrities" being paid to promote subjects like Gambling that many people find of an objectionable nature, if the "celebs" want to be associated with the subject and take the fee they must accept that many people will feel that their judgement was poor. Edited February 13, 2020 by TIGHTCHOKE SYNTAX! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted February 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 hours ago, toontastic said: Like celebrities promoting countryside activities and the possibility of influencing people to kill animals. So why don't we just stop everybody from promoting anything, as there is always going to be somebody out there who will be against something. So we shouldn't object to Mr Brian May or Mr Chris Packem trying to convince/ influence/target an audience through the power of TV that Vermin control isn't conservation,it's a blood sport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 52 minutes ago, Davyo said: So we shouldn't object to Mr Brian May or Mr Chris Packem trying to convince/ influence/target an audience through the power of TV that Vermin control isn't conservation,it's a blood sport? Different matter totally, we are discussing celebrities being paid for advertising products. You object to gambling adverts I work with a LACS supporter who loves cricket and never shuts up about Alistair Cook endorsing rifles. I also work with a vegan who complains about celebrities endorsing meat products. So where do we draw the line in regards to celebrities being paid for product endorsement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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