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So with the recent announcement regarding lead shot I now need to look at getting my aya yeoman chokes opened up to take steel as it's a gun I don't want to get rid of. Anybody know how much it would cost to have this done? They are sitting at standard half and full at the minute. I'm in northern ireland and we don't have as many gunsmiths about that can perform these mods. 

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Cant give a price for your local gunsmiths but do not get it done on the cheap. If not done properly you can ruin  the guns regulation "where it shoots"

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That's what I was thinking. Needs to be concentric in the bore an all that, being from an engineering background myself I definitely don't want to let some bubba at it who managed to buy some reamers. Problem with over here that I've had experience of is taking a gun in and the guys just saying no you would be better buying another gun... in other words they want to sell you something rather than sort out what you have

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10 hours ago, Rob85 said:

That's what I was thinking. Needs to be concentric in the bore an all that, being from an engineering background myself I definitely don't want to let some bubba at it who managed to buy some reamers. Problem with over here that I've had experience of is taking a gun in and the guys just saying no you would be better buying another gun... in other words they want to sell you something rather than sort out what you have

Get it into Benjamin Wild in Birmingham , or any of the gunsmiths on Price Street. You will get a decent price and good workmanship.

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You can shoot non HP steel (which you would be shooting through a non steel proof gun) through any choke. 

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hello, like Lloyd mentioned,  i would first see what NON HP steel cartridges are available in your area, you will not get much change out of £100 to get both barrels reamed out to reduce chokes if you have to get done in UK  is there not a good gunsmith in Northern Ireland,

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19 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

hello, like Lloyd mentioned,  i would first see what NON HP steel cartridges are available in your area, you will not get much change out of £100 to get both barrels reamed out to reduce chokes if you have to get done in UK  is there not a good gunsmith in Northern Ireland,


Even if they open the choke up I doubt the gun will take a HP steel as they’re normally a bigger length such as 3” and higher pressure. 
 

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3 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said:


Even if they open the choke up I doubt the gun will take a HP steel as they’re normally a bigger length such as 3” and higher pressure. 
 

hello, it would not be advisable,

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2 hours ago, Dave at kelton said:

Get it into Benjamin Wild in Birmingham , or any of the gunsmiths on Price Street. You will get a decent price and good workmanship.

This. Malcolm Cruxton or any of the others who do general gunsmith work or who do choke boring only. Look at about £35 to £65 per barrel.

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I`ve been using an AYA Yeoman with steel and the original full/half choke for years. I use a 28gm no.5 steel standard velocity cartridge and it works perfectly well with no damage to the gun whatsoever.

I have however, recently had a job lot done on my sbs`s taking them all out to half and quarter which worked out at about £40 per barrel.

Only since their seems to be a bit of confusion amongst other contributors to this thread, your gun, assuming it to be in good condition and still in proof, is as you know suitable only for Standard steel and not High Performance. Take a look at about 0610.

 

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Thanks for the responses guys. I would just feel more comfortable with the chokes eased out so I'm taking less of a risk with a 64yr old gun. I think the recommendation was no more than half choke, got in contact with the local place today as they are closed Monday's and they have quoted about £30 A barrel, that's honing them through from the chambers to the muzzle. They also have a wee hatsan magnum in stock for a good price so my wee over under might get a trade in. I love the videos TGS have done with Nick Horten, very honest and he does try out high pressure i think with a ugartechea and ends up with a slight bit of barrel damage

Just to be clear I'm not even considering running high pressure steel through it.

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45 minutes ago, Rob85 said:

Thanks for the responses guys. I would just feel more comfortable with the chokes eased out so I'm taking less of a risk with a 64yr old gun. I think the recommendation was no more than half choke, got in contact with the local place today as they are closed Monday's and they have quoted about £30 A barrel, that's honing them through from the chambers to the muzzle. They also have a wee hatsan magnum in stock for a good price so my wee over under might get a trade in. I love the videos TGS have done with Nick Horten, very honest and he does try out high pressure i think with a ugartechea and ends up with a slight bit of barrel damage

Just to be clear I'm not even considering running high pressure steel through it.

hello, that looks a good deal, are you sure its 64 years old, ?

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1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

hello, that looks a good deal, are you sure its 64 years old, ?

My mistake 54 years old haha I had just woke up when I sent that.... I'm working night shifts at the minute and my brain function isn't what it should be when I wake up! The place is a local clay ground/gun dealers and probably one of the best prices around for guns and getting work done in northern ireland that doesnt involve a bit of a drive away.

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9 minutes ago, Rob85 said:

My mistake 54 years old haha I had just woke up when I sent that.... I'm working night shifts at the minute and my brain function isn't what it should be when I wake up! The place is a local clay ground/gun dealers and probably one of the best prices around for guns and getting work done in northern ireland that doesnt involve a bit of a drive away.

hello, no worry, i bought a yeoman when they were £38.10shilling, about 2 years after first imported, about mid 1970s i seem to remember??? good luck with your:good:

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3 hours ago, Rob85 said:

Thanks for the responses guys. I would just feel more comfortable with the chokes eased out so I'm taking less of a risk with a 64yr old gun. I think the recommendation was no more than half choke, got in contact with the local place today as they are closed Monday's and they have quoted about £30 A barrel, that's honing them through from the chambers to the muzzle. They also have a wee hatsan magnum in stock for a good price so my wee over under might get a trade in. I love the videos TGS have done with Nick Horten, very honest and he does try out high pressure i think with a ugartechea and ends up with a slight bit of barrel damage

Just to be clear I'm not even considering running high pressure steel through it.

One other point that needs a little clarity here is HIGH presure steel.

 Its a cip thing. we are in it through europe. We are legaly obliged via the proof house to unsure guns are in proof when we sell/ exchange them.

Ammo proof specs are not in law, just advice . Now cartridge makers produce ammo inside these specs here, but also claim from such loads. speeds which those cartridges will never ever reach. I have not pressure tested X brands Marsh special HP. but i might have choreographed that round, and on the box it said 1550FPS But its doing 1294fps on your chrono at 3 yards, and even if you add the 70fps to that recorded speed for the distance from the muzle of the chrono. , its no way near the factory claim and no where near HP steel.

So regardless of claims it can be that HP is not has HP as it was suposed to be.  Over here even when we are talking lightening steel etc, we got the ammo options over here on the tame side of brisk, rather than scorchingly fast and genuine HP like some USA options. If you look at something like genuine remington hyperfast start taking notice, but what we tend to be able to buy here is little more than normal steel in HP steel labeling.

 What do you do? well you read the box take notice regardless, but if you got a chronoand better still get a test done, on pressure it might just be that with that batch of ammo at least you could be normal steel pressure in what is just claimed to be HP steel. The bit of extra speed is negligable but its just that its nice to know what you are acctualy dealing with, not claims set to encourage purchase of a quite mundane cartridge, dressed up to look like a real performer. This is precisely why i reload Much as possible, that way you know what you are getting exactly.

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