The Heron Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 They couldn't wait could they any excuse not to do any work schools closing despite being advised not to do so the sooner this government gets hold of this pampered profession the better and please don't tell me about tough iner City schools they aren't all like that take Christmas for example 3 weeks off and they decide to have a sobering up day sorry inset day the profession is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason g Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 I teach in alternative education and were not all like that presuming that all teachers are the same. I agree that its pampering but not by choice for the majority of teaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Which schools have closed? In the U.K.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 hello, not sure on names but read it was 5 schools where some pupils had come back from Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 48 minutes ago, jason g said: I teach in alternative education and were not all like that presuming that all teachers are the same. I agree that its pampering but not by choice for the majority of teaching staff. What’s alternative education? Genuine question. 49 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Which schools have closed? In the U.K.? I heard 3 named schools earlier on LBC, but for sensationalism let’s go for an Express headline...”NINETEEN” in big letters https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1247500/uk-school-closures-coronavirus-news-latest-symptoms-Covid-19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) Well we haven’t had any snow this year so they have been worked fairly hard since Christmas😁! Tbf A few days off education won’t do the children any harm. School, from my experience at least, was more about learning the rules of society than anything else. The academic side was taken care of long before by biology, those that are naturally bright or naturally interested in a subject will succeed in it, and you cannot teach that. Getting the Coronavirus on the other hand won’t do them any good at all. I love my Chinese takeaway's but even I haven’t risked one of those in 3 weeks. Edited February 27, 2020 by zipdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Imagine the massive outcry and financial repercussions if any of those kids or teachers who accompanied them develop the virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 7 hours ago, The Heron said: They couldn't wait could they any excuse not to do any work schools closing despite being advised not to do so the sooner this government gets hold of this pampered profession the better and please don't tell me about tough iner City schools they aren't all like that take Christmas for example 3 weeks off and they decide to have a sobering up day sorry inset day the profession is a joke. Are you serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 7 hours ago, The Heron said: They couldn't wait could they any excuse not to do any work schools closing despite being advised not to do so the sooner this government gets hold of this pampered profession the better and please don't tell me about tough iner City schools they aren't all like that take Christmas for example 3 weeks off and they decide to have a sobering up day sorry inset day the profession is a joke. Well, apparently your teachers couldn't manage to teach you basic punctuation - so perhaps there's something in what you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) . Edited February 27, 2020 by WalkedUp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Makes a change from bashing the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Pampered? I had to bring in paper to our local secondary school just so a young person could write a proposal/essay and my wife regularly comes home with bruises and occasionally I have to meet her at casualty when it is something worse. Yeah, pampered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, henry d said: Pampered? I had to bring in paper to our local secondary school just so a young person could write a proposal/essay and my wife regularly comes home with bruises and occasionally I have to meet her at casualty when it is something worse. Yeah, pampered. Let us hope that those who assault your wife face due process of law regardless of their age. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Blackpowder said: Let us hope that those who assault your wife face due process of law regardless of their age. Blackpowder Not going to happen as they are childen with complex/multiple/physical/mental special needs and is seen as part of the job even though she gets paid the same as a main stream support assistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 My sons school is the opposite! In December Ben caught a nasty rota virus, sickness & a trotty bot. I phoned in every day for the 2 week period except the last 2 days,(last to days he was clear but doctor advised to ensure he is clear for 48 hrs before going back). I even sent a letter in from the GP proving he had been to see his GP. It didn't stop them sending a threatening letter about attendance! Ben has probably only ever had about 3 days off prior to this in the last 5 years.Not once when i phoned in did 'the attendance office' (another created job) ask about Ben's well being, was only applying pressure to get him back into school.. Its all about attendance stat's, she tried to ensure me it wasn't when i phoned to complain about the letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, henry d said: my wife regularly comes home with bruises and occasionally I have to meet her at casualty when it is something worse. Teaching in the UK is an extremely high-stress job. The amount of paperwork that needs to be done is beyond parody and as you point out, large numbers of teachers face daily abuse or assault from their pupils. In my opinion anyone who is prepared to do the job deserves massive respect and society owes them a huge debt of gratitude. And yet still people complain. Give them a week on the job and I'm sure they'd change their tunes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Davyo said: My sons school is the opposite! In December Ben caught a nasty rota virus, sickness & a trotty bot. I phoned in every day for the 2 week period except the last 2 days,(last to days he was clear but doctor advised to ensure he is clear for 48 hrs before going back). I even sent a letter in from the GP proving he had been to see his GP. It didn't stop them sending a threatening letter about attendance! Ben has probably only ever had about 3 days off prior to this in the last 5 years.Not once when i phoned in did 'the attendance office' (another created job) ask about Ben's well being, was only applying pressure to get him back into school.. Its all about attendance stat's, she tried to ensure me it wasn't when i phoned to complain about the letter. Sounds about right. My lad had a similar thing a few weeks back and my ex was worried about them making a fuss about he's attendance. I'm sure they would rather have the child in and clearing up behind him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Davyo said: My sons school is the opposite! In December Ben caught a nasty rota virus, sickness & a trotty bot. I phoned in every day for the 2 week period except the last 2 days,(last to days he was clear but doctor advised to ensure he is clear for 48 hrs before going back). I even sent a letter in from the GP proving he had been to see his GP. It didn't stop them sending a threatening letter about attendance! Ben has probably only ever had about 3 days off prior to this in the last 5 years.Not once when i phoned in did 'the attendance office' (another created job) ask about Ben's well being, was only applying pressure to get him back into school.. Its all about attendance stat's, she tried to ensure me it wasn't when i phoned to complain about the letter. 11 minutes ago, Farmboy91 said: Sounds about right. My lad had a similar thing a few weeks back and my ex was worried about them making a fuss about he's attendance. I'm sure they would rather have the child in and clearing up behind him.... Well you know what to do next time, send them to school to spread the virus to all and sundry. See what happens to their precious attendance record then. Edited February 27, 2020 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Well you know what to do next time, send them to school to spread the virus to all and sundry. See what happens to their precious attendance record then. As much as I'd love to, couldn't do it to my lad. I can imagine he'd find it quite funny though 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 11 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: Which schools have closed? In the U.K.? These are local to me and although not closed (yet) they have been affected by ski trips to Italy and put some parents/children in self-isolation (i.e - stay away from the schools). https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/staff-pupils-two-leicestershire-schools-3889880 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, hedge said: These are local to me and although not closed (yet) they have been affected by ski trips to Italy and put some parents/children in self-isolation (i.e - stay away from the schools). https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/staff-pupils-two-leicestershire-schools-3889880 Sounds like a reasonable precaution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Sounds like a reasonable precaution. Yeah - also proportionate. New of other schools that have actually closed: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-51630931 Edited February 27, 2020 by hedge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetree Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 Teachers have the potential to be 'Super spreaders'. I could have taught 150 different students over the course of one day, in an enclosed, stuffy, densely populated classroom. This, and the dubious hygiene practices of children means that if it gets into the school population it will spread rapidly. A sensible precaution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Farmboy91 said: Sounds about right. My lad had a similar thing a few weeks back and my ex was worried about them making a fuss about he's attendance. I'm sure they would rather have the child in and clearing up behind him.... My wife (Ben's mum) is a retired teacher, got out last April at 52 yrs old. Fed up of the statistics of it all and the fact that its not about the child its about meeting Government stats. I remember with some dis believe one year, my wife telling me that the Head had asked her to mark a number of her children down. Yes that right 'mark them down' because another member of staff needed to look good in an future Ofsted inspection. Susan had coffee a few weeks back with two of her old colleagues. These two were supposed to be at work but met Sue in their 'PPA TIME'. I think that means that they get time for preparation so should either be done at home or at work.Not sitting in Hotel scoffing cakes and drinking coffee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 27, 2020 Report Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, henry d said: Not going to happen as they are childen with complex/multiple/physical/mental special needs and is seen as part of the job even though she gets paid the same as a main stream support assistant. So she decided to work in that environment. Like saying being a baker and getting covered in flour and occasionally getting burnt on the oven. Kind of goes with the job If your wife's not happy she should change jobs. Children should be taught right and wrong and punished when done wrong. Too much mamby Pamby can hit them can't do this that and the other. Why not it worked for many many years. The schooling and teaching of today clearly are not turning out better than years gone by. Lots of snowflakes taught in the age off kid gloves parenting and teaching are now teachers themselves. Corporal punishment should be brought back. Schools should have more backbone. Dish out masks and get back at it. Edited February 27, 2020 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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