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Oil price in the toilet, is now the time to let the Scots have another vote


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3 hours ago, Blackpowder said:

Sorry to diverge from the original post but reference to Alec Salmond, on a  you tube clip of his first court appearance earlier this year I am sure there were around 20 police officers around the courthouse door.   No shortage of the thin blue line that day.

 

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Yes and how much is the policing now  the trial is underway , how much is it costing the public.  He is a no body , why should he be afforded  this security  , if he looses , should he not have to pay for all this cost . 

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8 hours ago, Westward said:

The SNP groupthink as a government appears to be similar to Corbynism and thus they seem to perceive independence as a sort of nationalisation of the entire country plus a few  vanity projects like the scandal of the new ferries rusting away in a bankrupt Clyde shipyard. The big flaw is that with 70% or so of the workforce in the public sector, most of whom work for the UK rather than Scotland exclusively, it's difficult to see how Scotland could fund it's socialist paradise - with or without oil revenues.

The SNP was formed in the 50s with a single objective, viz: Independence, and I'm not at all sure they ever expected be in government. Having worked in the 1970s with an SNP activist, I quickly worked out that independence was their only goal and oil revenues their only argument for it.

The SNP was formed before this and certain influential people in it supported Hitler as a route to independence for Scotland.

 

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3 minutes ago, Dougy said:

You do well to understand what their on about, thats both really. 😉

 

 

I cant see what the problem is, give them independence,  do it tomorrow, if little cranky wants her own country its hers. The news can then start covering the fall of the little porridge muncher. 

It's not her country , its ours . The Scottish  people  , she is a one trick pony. 

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11 minutes ago, johnphilip said:

Yes and how much is the policing now  the trial is underway , how much is it costing the public.  He is a no body , why should he be afforded  this security  , if he looses , should he not have to pay for all this cost . 

Seem to remember he had a crowd funding project in order to build up a fighting fund when these allegation first arose. Quite a huge amount raised as far as I remember. I wonder what the stupid suckers that contributed now feel. 

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19 minutes ago, Dougy said:

I know, but its a bloomin good way to out her, and probably the best one. 

But at what cost . I would ask them this , if we have another vote ,and they loose again , will they want another vote later , and they say yes . I would say well your not getting this  one . Now stop wasting time and get on running the country . And stop us being  the laughing  stock of the world . The people of Scotland  deserve  better .

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5 minutes ago, johnphilip said:

But at what cost . I would ask them this , if we have another vote ,and they loose again , will they want another vote later , and they say yes . I would say well your not getting this  one . Now stop wasting time and get on running the country . And stop us being  the laughing  stock of the world . The people of Scotland  deserve  better .

Good post. But wouldn't most Scots prefer a 2 party system? The SNP have free rein without any effective opposition and IMO that's not healthy for Scotland.

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13 hours ago, Mungler said:

I’m no fan of referendums - the Scottish one in a lifetime vote now appears to be once a year or as many times until the SNP get the result they want. Ditto for Brexit.

However, correct me if I’m wrong, but without decent a oil price and English support, Scotland is no better than Greece but without the sunshine, the history, the culture or the olive oil  😝

Discuss. 

😀😀😀😀😀😀

Not much happening in Essex today !! 😜😜😜

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1 hour ago, Westward said:

Good post. But wouldn't most Scots prefer a 2 party system? The SNP have free rein without any effective opposition and IMO that's not healthy for Scotland.

Good point , I think we will have to see  how well Brexit  goes , I think it is something the SNP realy fear if it goes well , that why I believe  they are pushing so hard now . Labour  need to get there act sorted . Often a party does not get in because it's the best party . They get in because the others were worse  then them . Interesting  times ahead . But I will be honest and Hate everything they stand for , and the division  they are cause . .. tie will tell .

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12 hours ago, johnphilip said:

Good point , I think we will have to see  how well Brexit  goes , I think it is something the SNP realy fear if it goes well , that why I believe  they are pushing so hard now . Labour  need to get there act sorted . Often a party does not get in because it's the best party . They get in because the others were worse  then them . Interesting  times ahead . But I will be honest and Hate everything they stand for , and the division  they are cause . .. tie will tell .

Not often.....always! :no: An opposition party doesn't win any election, the performance of the party in power is usually so **** poor they hand it to the opposition..........and round and round it goes again!

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21 hours ago, Lloyd90 said:

Yes. My mate worked on several rigs North of Scotland. A lot of Scots work them, he says how the Scots owned the oil / land and they all said it. 
 

He was Irish himself but was raving when I said the Scots wouldn’t automatically own that oil. He was very left wing (yet kept all his money in his company to avoid paying tax). 

I worked offshore in the North Sea for 30+ years and that statement would only have come from a few brave heart supporters. Anyone with a bit of savvy who works in the north sea knows different. The oil & gas in the Irish sea and the North sea belongs to the oil company who has the rights to drill for it and they then pay the tax`s accordingly to the country who has given them the drilling rights.

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22 hours ago, Blackpowder said:

Sorry to diverge from the original post but reference to Alec Salmond, on a  you tube clip of his first court appearance earlier this year I am sure there were around 20 police officers around the courthouse door.   No shortage of the thin blue line that day.

 

Blackpowder

 

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