johnphilip Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Blackpowder said: Sorry to diverge from the original post but reference to Alec Salmond, on a you tube clip of his first court appearance earlier this year I am sure there were around 20 police officers around the courthouse door. No shortage of the thin blue line that day. Blackpowder Yes and how much is the policing now the trial is underway , how much is it costing the public. He is a no body , why should he be afforded this security , if he looses , should he not have to pay for all this cost . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Westward said: The SNP groupthink as a government appears to be similar to Corbynism and thus they seem to perceive independence as a sort of nationalisation of the entire country plus a few vanity projects like the scandal of the new ferries rusting away in a bankrupt Clyde shipyard. The big flaw is that with 70% or so of the workforce in the public sector, most of whom work for the UK rather than Scotland exclusively, it's difficult to see how Scotland could fund it's socialist paradise - with or without oil revenues. The SNP was formed in the 50s with a single objective, viz: Independence, and I'm not at all sure they ever expected be in government. Having worked in the 1970s with an SNP activist, I quickly worked out that independence was their only goal and oil revenues their only argument for it. The SNP was formed before this and certain influential people in it supported Hitler as a route to independence for Scotland. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dougy said: You do well to understand what their on about, thats both really. 😉 I cant see what the problem is, give them independence, do it tomorrow, if little cranky wants her own country its hers. The news can then start covering the fall of the little porridge muncher. It's not her country , its ours . The Scottish people , she is a one trick pony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 I know, but its a bloomin good way to out her, and probably the best one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, johnphilip said: Yes and how much is the policing now the trial is underway , how much is it costing the public. He is a no body , why should he be afforded this security , if he looses , should he not have to pay for all this cost . Seem to remember he had a crowd funding project in order to build up a fighting fund when these allegation first arose. Quite a huge amount raised as far as I remember. I wonder what the stupid suckers that contributed now feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, Dougy said: I know, but its a bloomin good way to out her, and probably the best one. But at what cost . I would ask them this , if we have another vote ,and they loose again , will they want another vote later , and they say yes . I would say well your not getting this one . Now stop wasting time and get on running the country . And stop us being the laughing stock of the world . The people of Scotland deserve better . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, johnphilip said: But at what cost . I would ask them this , if we have another vote ,and they loose again , will they want another vote later , and they say yes . I would say well your not getting this one . Now stop wasting time and get on running the country . And stop us being the laughing stock of the world . The people of Scotland deserve better . Good post. But wouldn't most Scots prefer a 2 party system? The SNP have free rein without any effective opposition and IMO that's not healthy for Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 3 hours ago, grrclark said: Must not give in to the temptation .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenshank1 Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 13 hours ago, Mungler said: I’m no fan of referendums - the Scottish one in a lifetime vote now appears to be once a year or as many times until the SNP get the result they want. Ditto for Brexit. However, correct me if I’m wrong, but without decent a oil price and English support, Scotland is no better than Greece but without the sunshine, the history, the culture or the olive oil 😝 Discuss. 😀😀😀😀😀😀 Not much happening in Essex today !! 😜😜😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Westward said: Good post. But wouldn't most Scots prefer a 2 party system? The SNP have free rein without any effective opposition and IMO that's not healthy for Scotland. Good point , I think we will have to see how well Brexit goes , I think it is something the SNP realy fear if it goes well , that why I believe they are pushing so hard now . Labour need to get there act sorted . Often a party does not get in because it's the best party . They get in because the others were worse then them . Interesting times ahead . But I will be honest and Hate everything they stand for , and the division they are cause . .. tie will tell . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 12 hours ago, johnphilip said: Good point , I think we will have to see how well Brexit goes , I think it is something the SNP realy fear if it goes well , that why I believe they are pushing so hard now . Labour need to get there act sorted . Often a party does not get in because it's the best party . They get in because the others were worse then them . Interesting times ahead . But I will be honest and Hate everything they stand for , and the division they are cause . .. tie will tell . Not often.....always! An opposition party doesn't win any election, the performance of the party in power is usually so **** poor they hand it to the opposition..........and round and round it goes again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bad lindz Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 21 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: Yes. My mate worked on several rigs North of Scotland. A lot of Scots work them, he says how the Scots owned the oil / land and they all said it. He was Irish himself but was raving when I said the Scots wouldn’t automatically own that oil. He was very left wing (yet kept all his money in his company to avoid paying tax). I worked offshore in the North Sea for 30+ years and that statement would only have come from a few brave heart supporters. Anyone with a bit of savvy who works in the north sea knows different. The oil & gas in the Irish sea and the North sea belongs to the oil company who has the rights to drill for it and they then pay the tax`s accordingly to the country who has given them the drilling rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big bad lindz Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 22 hours ago, Blackpowder said: Sorry to diverge from the original post but reference to Alec Salmond, on a you tube clip of his first court appearance earlier this year I am sure there were around 20 police officers around the courthouse door. No shortage of the thin blue line that day. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 On 09/03/2020 at 19:39, Mr_Nobody said: 🤣🤣 nope, been there done that. Not a fair fight anyhow 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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