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Dave,

just copied from the why posts Thanks to OP.

Just seen a post on Facebook that Avon police were handing out leaflets at a popular spot for dog walking to people as they got out of their cars , trying to explain that they can walk the dog but they weren’t meant to drive them somewhere to do it , another unnecessary journey ! I’m guessing if that doesn’t get through then the fines will start ! 

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5 minutes ago, rbrowning2 said:

Dave,

just copied from the why posts Thanks to OP.

Just seen a post on Facebook that Avon police were handing out leaflets at a popular spot for dog walking to people as they got out of their cars , trying to explain that they can walk the dog but they weren’t meant to drive them somewhere to do it , another unnecessary journey ! I’m guessing if that doesn’t get through then the fines will start ! 

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Yes, thanks for heads up - just saw that - dunno what to think about local police suiting their selves about whats what.

Saw another post earlier - dunno where, about police saying its OK to drive to a park to get the exercise. 

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10 minutes ago, Dave-G said:

Yes, thanks for heads up - just saw that - dunno what to think about local police suiting their selves about whats what.

Saw another post earlier - dunno where, about police saying its OK to drive to a park to get the exercise. 

you have to live in the force area to understand the madness only force in the country who don’t seem to know who’s selling drugs on their patch if you get burgled best you can expect is a crime number!

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51 minutes ago, rbrowning2 said:

now please tell me where that is WRONG ? ,,,,,     All within the terms of the General Licences of course, in case it was in doubt.

 

 👍 Except the rabbits of course 😏 

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40 minutes ago, Dave-G said:

Yes, thanks for heads up - just saw that - dunno what to think about local police suiting their selves about whats what.

Saw another post earlier - dunno where, about police saying its OK to drive to a park to get the exercise. 

It was a question that came up on a news programme 'ask the specialist' slot,,,, "Can I drive to a park to walk my dog. Have a dog that needs lots of exercise, and no park nearby ? “

Answer,,,," Yes of course. If your dog needs a lot of exercise it is perfectly acceptable."

Impossible to 'run out with your dog, giving it proper exercise and playing fetch on the streets' anywhere 🤔

Mixed messages and info from too many people. Everyone needs to use common sense, the police and authorities included.

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9 minutes ago, JKD said:

It was a question that came up on a news programme 'ask the specialist' slot,,,, "Can I drive to a park to walk my dog. Have a dog that needs lots of exercise, and no park nearby ? “

Answer,,,," Yes of course. If your dog needs a lot of exercise it is perfectly acceptable."

Impossible to 'run out with your dog, giving it proper exercise and playing fetch on the streets' anywhere 🤔

Mixed messages and info from too many people. Everyone needs to use common sense, the police and authorities included.

That's the one thank ee sir. :)

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21 hours ago, Dave at kelton said:

Stay at home means stay at home. When out you are opening gates climbing over things etc and potentially leaving trace virus on surfaces. Their remains a chance of someone else picking them up so just give it a break and we will get through this quicker.

There is far more chance of people doing their exercise and spreading the virus, than a lone shooter. 

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13 hours ago, rbrowning2 said:

Dave you have already made up your mind, but as somebody who looks to be in gun trade should you not be leading by example?

The message is simple stay home stay safe, but obviously a few crows are an essential reason to go out.

why not wait a day or two and see if basc David posts an update? After all the lockdown is for 21days. 

 

But people aren't made to stay at home. People can choose to leave their homes to go shopping or for exercise. Even off licenses are to be left open for some strange reason! 

I get all the sacrifice of the NHS workers and others, but talking from a completely logical point of view, it makes absolutely no sense to allow the above, but not allow a lone pursuit, well out of the way of others - which is far less risky. Prove me wrong!

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14 minutes ago, motty said:

But people aren't made to stay at home. People can choose to leave their homes to go shopping or for exercise. Even off licenses are to be left open for some strange reason! 

I get all the sacrifice of the NHS workers and others, but talking from a completely logical point of view, it makes absolutely no sense to allow the above, but not allow a lone pursuit, well out of the way of others - which is far less risky. Prove me wrong!

your not wrong four idiots have just walked past the house chatting face to face your miles safer in a empty field the rules have probably been made by a suit who never seen a drilling let alone 800 birds on it 

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Well I just got back from taking the dog up there for a walk and chat with the head green keeper.

I get free membership of the club as payment in kind for my casual part time pest control there. Nothing is currently formalised in writing but that is to be documented next time the actual club manager is in. The green keepers are still working the land.

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As it’s crystal clear the government wants to remove firearms from the public as its hurdle after hurdle now to renew/obtain a gun license & being stopped by the police out shooting now is simply not worth the risk, this virus will be over soon fingers crossed.

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25 minutes ago, motty said:

But people aren't made to stay at home. People can choose to leave their homes to go shopping or for exercise. Even off licenses are to be left open for some strange reason! 

I get all the sacrifice of the NHS workers and others, but talking from a completely logical point of view, it makes absolutely no sense to allow the above, but not allow a lone pursuit, well out of the way of others - which is far less risky. Prove me wrong!

you make a great point as always bud, and I tend to agree with you very little risk going out shooting but, this is  like the GL fiasco of last year when there was a lot of confusion can we cant we go shooting  and I didn't go because I was so unsure about it and I feel the same right now if theres any doubt don't do it 

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I have a brilliant idea,

 

Boris can stand down, stay at home in isolation for a few weeks and we can all get the advice we need on Social media. Face ache just amazes me, its a group set up for sad lonely people with no real world social skills at all. 

 

I have enough at work with numpties taking all this garbage from social media, something about the army being used to control people out on the street, what they going to do  open fire on the little old lady walking her rug rat. 

 

None of us have been here before yet there are millions of so called Eggspurts. Common sense is right at the top of the to do list. 

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12 minutes ago, Dougy said:

I have a brilliant idea,

 

Boris can stand down, stay at home in isolation for a few weeks and we can all get the advice we need on Social media. Face ache just amazes me, its a group set up for sad lonely people with no real world social skills at all. 

 

I have enough at work with numpties taking all this garbage from social media, something about the army being used to control people out on the street, what they going to do  open fire on the little old lady walking her rug rat. 

 

None of us have been here before yet there are millions of so called Eggspurts. Common sense is right at the top of the to do list. 

100%  Just sit tight keep yourself and your kin safe and you will live to go shooting in the future. 

6 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

hello, there is an empty cottage on farm with all mod cons, just need a camp bed,  200 acres of spring drilling, seriously thinking ???

Now that's a plan.  No public footpaths I assume.

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15 minutes ago, blackbird said:

As it’s crystal clear the government wants to remove firearms from the public as its hurdle after hurdle now to renew/obtain a gun license & being stopped by the police out shooting now is simply not worth the risk, this #### will be over soon fingers crossed.

What a load of none sense.

New applications have understandably been stopped. Why should extra risks be taken by the police and public doing home visits for something that's not really an essential. 

Renewal applications are being risk ranked and done by phone where possible or extensions or section 7s granted.

BASC website has more info by force.

 

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27 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

hello, there is an empty cottage on farm with all mod cons, just need a camp bed,  200 acres of spring drilling, seriously thinking

I’m not really sure how anyone could deny that would be isolated! There are many cyclists on the roads and a few dry stone wallers making the most of this situation. Saw three of the local farmers crunched up in their gator this morning; all of whom live in separate houses. 
A woman I was talking to this morning says she can’t walk the Fells at the moment as farmers don’t want to have to sanitise gates etc, and it’s lambing time, which I can understand, but I fail to see how sitting in a hide on your own is putting anyone at risk. 

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2 hours ago, motty said:

There is far more chance of people doing their exercise and spreading the virus, than a lone shooter. 

 

1 hour ago, motty said:

But people aren't made to stay at home. People can choose to leave their homes to go shopping or for exercise. Even off licenses are to be left open for some strange reason! 

I get all the sacrifice of the NHS workers and others, but talking from a completely logical point of view, it makes absolutely no sense to allow the above, but not allow a lone pursuit, well out of the way of others - which is far less risky. Prove me wrong!

Last year when we had the G L fiasco our two local W A clubs clubs put a blanket ban on shooting pigeons on all club land until it was sorted out and I dare say that would be back in force now , you are in a club , would they now let you go after pigeons on land they rent ?

Now we are in a far different ball game , if you want to risk going then you go but I certainly wouldn't risk my s g c , just seen where in Italy they are sending up drones to see if anybody is out who shouldn't be , this is a serious situation and I for one wont be looking for ways around the demand to stay at home just so I can shoot a few pigeons .

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23 minutes ago, Scully said:

I’m not really sure how anyone could deny that would be isolated! There are many cyclists on the roads and a few dry stone wallers making the most of this situation. Saw three of the local farmers crunched up in their gator this morning; all of whom live in separate houses. 
A woman I was talking to this morning says she can’t walk the Fells at the moment as farmers don’t want to have to sanitise gates etc, and it’s lambing time, which I can understand, but I fail to see how sitting in a hide on your own is putting anyone at risk. 

hello, it not realy about the shooting but isolating in town, just miss being out in the fields,

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I would feel better off in a field! Or working in isolation. Four folk been round my door i wouldn't normally see and because they know/seen i am home.

First. Neighbour. " As i am stuck at home do you mind if i cut branch off your tree overhanging my garden and remove ivy from fence"? Me. " Up to you but birds are nesting in both".  He shrugs and says " I need something to do". Neither have never been a problem for years and first time i have seen him in weeks. As he walks away, " Oh by the way how are you"? Nice!

Second. Fella from down the road. Just checking i wouldn't be putting any washing out as he was going to light a bonfire. Great!

Third. East European DPD driver doing the i have little English routine, trying to leave a package  that's not even for me. Strange!

Fourth! Random woman new to village. Seen my van and  wondering if i had any spare paint as she wanted to decorate her bathroom. Really!

I wonder who or what will turn up this afternoon!? Gurrrrr! Rant over!

I am gona hide in a shed and prep some pigeons!

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On 24/03/2020 at 10:03, P.Shuter said:

Why should pigeon decoying, by an individual, be an issue ?

A person pigeon decoying will pretty much be isolated, keeping a good distance from anyone the whole time they are out in the field AND getting a daily dose of exercise. If a vehicle has to be left on the roadside or in a gate hole, place a card on the dash ‘OWNER CARRYING OUT CROP PROTECTION’.

Perhaps if your perm is close to any human habitation, any facility which has remained open, a construction site or similar, then probably it’s best to keep away, nothing to be gained from drawing unnecessary attention to yourself and avoid any land, field or area with a footpath running through it.

Just make sure your farmer/landowner is okay with you continuing your crop protection.

It could be argued that crop protection is an essential service and if it’s deemed not to be then it’s certainly a worthwhile service which benefits indirectly ( and unknowingly ) many many people. 

Good Hunting everybody. 

Flippin' 'eck!

95 posts and 2003. It would benefit everyone if you got out more if you get my drift.:good:

And your nom de plume is a cracker!

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I don't think I've ever seen more lycra lout cyclists or walkers down my road than I have since Monday in the last 10 years. We have a campsite about 3 miles away so it does get popular in the summer.

I'm 100% behind the lockdown especially after the other weekend but this is ridiculous.

Even had the council turn up with 3 vans and 6 blokes yesterday to fill the pothole outside my drive, any other time of the year it's a 3 month wait, I only reported it on 6th of this month. 

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2 hours ago, Meldon said:

What a load of none sense.

New applications have understandably been stopped. Why should extra risks be taken by the police and public doing home visits for something that's not really an essential. 

Renewal applications are being risk ranked and done by phone where possible or extensions or section 7s granted.

BASC website has more info by force.

 

The point I was making if you are stopped/reported out shooting at this point in time you can kiss your licence good bye.

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My take on it is that if you carry on shooting there is little risk of infection being spread under normal shooting circumstances. And it's obviously good for mental and physical health. However if we accept that there is a lockdown and only essential travel to work, for medical or food supplies etc is permitted, then there is a risk to the public perception of shooting and an unlikely but still possible risk of your license being revoked. 

If members of the public see or more likely, hear shooting carrying on as normal they will understandably be angry that folk are carrying on as normal while they are on lockdown. This will reflect badly on shooting as a sport.

Regarding your licenses. The Government has issued orders that curtail free movement for all, except in certain essential circumstances. This is to help save lives. The police issue their SGC and or FAC on the understanding that the recipients are law abiding citizens who will respect the rules and conditions of their licenses and of society in general, and abide by them. In my opinion, if the police respond to people carrying out shooting and the shooter cannot prove beyond doubt that the shooting is essential, they will likely open themselves up for revocation of certificates. This is simply because by out shooting, they have demonstrated that they cannot follow government advice and orders. And if they can't do that when it is designed to save lives, they are unlikely to abide by any other conditions or rules. Therefore they are untrustworthy.

Just my take on it. I will miss going out but in the grand scheme of things, it's not that much of a hardship.

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