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This morning's walk revealed these in a hedgerow. They are Elm tree seeds. It's a long time since I last saw something similar. 

 

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Wow .. that takes me back.

We had a big single tree in our front garden when I was a kid, so very familiar, but not seen by me for decades I guess.

Thanks for posting ...

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Quite a few around here, the elm bush  grows into a small tree, produces seeds but eventually falls victim to disease.  Mature elm's in winter are a great miss in the countryside.

 

Blackpowder

 

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Rare these days.  All of the elms on my patch have gone...all that is, bar one which grew from a seed when I planted the wood and is still surving 20yrs later. It is I believe a witch elm and there are no other elms in the vicinity so hoping it survives.  My roadside hedge used to be full of them but now all gone.  

Frightens me now to remember climbing those 100ft elms to search for birds nest when I was but a kid.

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I did read somewhere that someone had bred some elms which where safe from the disease and yes, it would be nice to have them back in the countryside but we would need to be here in a 100yrs time to see those huge trees I knew in my youth.

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3 minutes ago, Walker570 said:

Rare these days.  All of the elms on my patch have gone...all that is, bar one which grew from a seed when I planted the wood and is still surving 20yrs later. It is I believe a witch elm and there are no other elms in the vicinity so hoping it survives.  My roadside hedge used to be full of them but now all gone.  

Frightens me now to remember climbing those 100ft elms to search for birds nest when I was but a kid.

I remember climbing the Elm trees too..............never gave a thought that I might fall !...........terrible shame that they were hit by Dutch elm........only seem to grow to 20-30 feet high these days before dying off.

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I would love some of the seeds if possible, so that I can try and grow them. They would compliment my Oak, H.Chestnut, American red Oak, Beech and Walnut ones.

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3 minutes ago, steve_b_wales said:

I would love some of the seeds if possible, so that I can try and grow them. They would compliment my Oak, H.Chestnut, American red Oak, Beech and Walnut ones.

I love all the work you do Steve on growing these  beautiful  trees , keep going . Hope you get sorted with some .

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50 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Jdog will you be harvesting some when they are ripe?

There’s the rub. When are they ripe?

35 minutes ago, steve_b_wales said:

I would love some of the seeds if possible, so that I can try and grow them. They would compliment my Oak, H.Chestnut, American red Oak, Beech and Walnut ones.

I wouldn’t know when to collect them but if you would like some I will be happy to send you some.

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59 minutes ago, steve_b_wales said:

I would love some of the seeds if possible, so that I can try and grow them. They would compliment my Oak, H.Chestnut, American red Oak, Beech and Walnut ones.

I would also like to have some please if it's possible. 

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38 minutes ago, Blackpowder said:

I think when the tree sheds them,  would be the time to collect.

 

Blackpowder 

Pick them towards the end of May when the green seeds have begun to turn brown.

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Still got a few around me, small trees only - they die off then resprout from the base. I'll see if I can gather a handful for you Steve when they're a bit riper. (As a thank you for the oaks!)

 

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4 hours ago, JDog said:

There’s the rub. When are they ripe?

I wouldn’t know when to collect them but if you would like some I will be happy to send you some.

PM sent

 

1 hour ago, sandspider said:

Still got a few around me, small trees only - they die off then resprout from the base. I'll see if I can gather a handful for you Steve when they're a bit riper. (As a thank you for the oaks!)

 

Much appreciated. Happy to cover postage costs.

I've just checked, and the seeds are ready to be picked when they turn Brown - towards the end of May.

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No worries on postage costs, will get you some if I can. And get to a post box! Pm me your address.

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The one in my wood has produced seeds for a number of years but I was about to say I had not seen any seedlings. Just went down to get a photo or two and some seedlings were showing under the tree. Now the wood grows thousands of ash seedlings but these look slightly different, maybe elm, we will see.  I do believe it is a witch elm as you can see from the photos it has that rambling nature.  The seedling is the small two leafed one, the other is a small branch from the main tree.

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I have heard the term "witch elm" but unsure how it differs from a normal elm.

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On 01/05/2020 at 19:03, NoBodyImportant said:

Didn’t you all have a Elm disease a while back that killed them all?  

  The tree tops die, but the roots live on and produce a bush, then a small tree, then the disease gets them.

  One day a random mutation will mean we get them back,  may take a few millenia, but we will,

 

RS

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On 01/05/2020 at 19:28, wishy735 said:

I have heard the term "witch elm" but unsure how it differs from a normal elm.

The dodgy town I grew up in has an area in it called Wych Elm. 

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Well Jdog kindly sent me some of the seeds today. I have planted the first batch about 3/4 of an inch deep, the next I will try deeper as I've never tried elm seeds before. 

Jdog please let me know how much I owe you. 

I phoned the old boy 93 year's young to tell him as they will go into his woodland and he's over the moon as we dont have any left around here. If they germinate they willeventually go next to Walker's walnuts. 

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my dad planted some elms at the end of our garden in the old house we lived I think he must have grown em from cuttings because they where well established when we moved , I would  be  8yrs old then so 63 yrs ago , i'll have a look and see  if they have thrived .

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Great stuff !   An important saying from the old Greek blokes, 

" A society grows great when old men plant trees who's shade they know they will never sit in"

nuff said

 

 

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