lancer425 Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Weeks ago i Distinctly remember reading that there were to be test kits available, via amazon etc, for AFAIR £6. Now Is this testing what they call TRACK & TRACE. ? I am sure i did not dream this, can anyone remember reading this and any links to the details perhaps please.? I have google search and searched , can not find anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Ruler Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, lancer425 said: Weeks ago i Distinctly remember reading that there were to be test kits available, via amazon etc, for AFAIR £6. Now Is this testing what they call TRACK & TRACE. ? I am sure i did not dream this, can anyone remember reading this and any links to the details perhaps please.? I have google search and searched , can not find anything. These were the antibody tests to see if you have already had it a dare now immune. They didn’t work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 When the original 100k tests per day target was announced by Hancock it was based on a mix of swan tests for active virus and home antibody tests. The latter went quiet but they apparently still surpassed the target. It’s not clear if the home tests mentioned in the news today are active virus or antibody. Clear as mud... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Ruler Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 8 hours ago, Raja Clavata said: When the original 100k tests per day target was announced by Hancock it was based on a mix of swan tests for active virus and home antibody tests. The latter went quiet but they apparently still surpassed the target. It’s not clear if the home tests mentioned in the news today are active virus or antibody. Clear as mud... The antibody tests were done completely at home, like a pregnancy test. I think with these new tests you do a swab at home and send it back to the lab for testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 That's what I'm assuming too. I wonder how many of those at home swab tests will even get a viable sample. Not knocking the govt but it sounds a bit fishy to me, claiming to meet the numbers by putting 40k tests in the postal system is a bit of a stretch. Seems like they are just trying to shift the goal posts for damage limitation purposes. Pretty sure when the 100k number was quoted as it target it meant 100k tests / samples being taken per day, be interesting to see what the weekly total of actual test results for the week is in 7 days time 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Ruler Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: That's what I'm assuming too. I wonder how many of those at home swab tests will even get a viable sample. Not knocking the govt but it sounds a bit fishy to me, claiming to meet the numbers by putting 40k tests in the postal system is a bit of a stretch. Seems like they are just trying to shift the goal posts for damage limitation purposes. Pretty sure when the 100k number was quoted as it target it meant 100k tests / samples being taken per day, be interesting to see what the weekly total of actual test results for the week is in 7 days time 👍 If you knock the postal tests off they still did 95,000 tests on Thursday so they weren’t far off the target anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 Fair enough, TBH I've not had time to follow it closely enough this week. I think >500k tests a week would be a good achievement, 700k brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted May 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 So the test i heard of is no use. Thanks, i thought i had read about them but there is that much to wade through its hard to keep track. 95000 tests is one heck of a lot of tests, and even if they count the kits sent out giving was it 120K kits. What an astonishing achievement. If you round it off to 100K , Uk population 70million, its still going to take about two years to test us all. What they are doing is a huge undertaking, i am actually very impressed with what they have done to fight this pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Ruler Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, lancer425 said: So the test i heard of is no use. Thanks, i thought i had read about them but there is that much to wade through its hard to keep track. 95000 tests is one heck of a lot of tests, and even if they count the kits sent out giving was it 120K kits. What an astonishing achievement. If you round it off to 100K , Uk population 70million, its still going to take about two years to test us all. What they are doing is a huge undertaking, i am actually very impressed with what they have done to fight this pandemic. I think the antibody tests are available to buy online, or were, but they are supposed to be only 30% accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted May 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mighty Ruler said: I think the antibody tests are available to buy online, or were, but they are supposed to be only 30% accurate. Not worth fooilng about with at those %. Was just an idea, and i knew i had read something, but was some weeks ago. I dont know about you but time is flying by its may already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 There's a very informative post about the "accuracy" of testing by @Blackstone here: 7 hours ago, Mighty Ruler said: If you knock the postal tests off they still did 95,000 tests on Thursday so they weren’t far off the target anyway. Just coming back on this - any idea if that's 95,000 tests on different people or some repeated? Clear as mud still, eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Ruler Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Raja Clavata said: Just coming back on this - any idea if that's 95,000 tests on different people or some repeated? Clear as mud still, eh. As far as I know it’s anyone with symptoms, I suppose that would include people who had already been tested, especially NHS staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 16 hours ago, Mighty Ruler said: 19 hours ago, Raja Clavata said: Just coming back on this - any idea if that's 95,000 tests on different people or some repeated? Clear as mud still, eh. As far as I know it’s anyone with symptoms, I suppose that would include people who had already been tested, especially NHS staff. I was referring to daily tests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Ruler Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Raja Clavata said: I was referring to daily tests. Why would they repeat a test on the same day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 two explanations, there may be more: 1) the test is so unreliable (or getting a viable sample difficult) 2) more than one type of test (does testing someone for being positive and also for antibodies count as one test or two) The metric for the number of tests is on a daily basis, what I'm getting at is whether or not the number of tests is a direct correlation to the number of people tested - this is one of the numerous mechanisms that can be used to manipulate figures 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Ruler Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Raja Clavata said: two explanations, there may be more: 1) the test is so unreliable (or getting a viable sample difficult) 2) more than one type of test (does testing someone for being positive and also for antibodies count as one test or two) The metric for the number of tests is on a daily basis, what I'm getting at is whether or not the number of tests is a direct correlation to the number of people tested - this is one of the numerous mechanisms that can be used to manipulate figures 👍 I don’t think the tests performed by the NHS and the Satellites (army etc) are unreliable but I’m not sure about the diy ones posted out. I assumed all the tests carried out were live virus tests not antibody but I’m not sure on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 I would question the results from samples taken at home, most wince at the thought of taking a swab- yet alone taking one from the back of the throat and nasel cavity. Hurts/stings, like hell and I can’t see most carrying it out correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 We’ve been using a third party lab for our workforce and there’s an indicator that shows if the swans been taken correctly. All of ours have said how unpleasant it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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